A deep meaningful question has an answer that points to wisdom which appeals to an evolved understanding. A superficial meaningful question has an answer that gives knowledge that many believe is wisdom but it is not. Wisdom helps humanity to accept life that happens whereas knowledge conditions humanity to accept only life that should and is expected to happen. Deep meaningful questions will be addressed to reveal wisdom.

 

Questions can be put here

 

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Question from New Zealand: 25-7-2017

Respected sir, we can't see pure light, only reflected light is visible though illusory. What is the medium on which this pure light is reflected on?

Regards

Answer from Dr. Shankar

There is no medium on which pure light is reflected. Pure light is the only medium that reflects as consciousness. Consciousness in turn reflects as illusory visible light.

 

Question from USA; 24-7-2017

Dr.Shankar

Yes, but how does pure light which we can't see make appearances that we can see?

Answer from Dr. Shankar

Pure light reflects reflected light and we see reflected light and think of its illusory appearances as labels in the mind.

 

Question from USA: 23-7-2017

Dr. Shankar,

Hoping all is well with you. Could you please explain "reflection" more deeply for me? I know what it means BUT, then again I feel as if there is something missing in the reflection of light phrase...All is only light yes...this light is intelligence itself---is the human brain and faculties the prism? I need to wrap around this more deeply...it feels slippery somewhat...Thank you

Answer from Dr. Shankar

Reflection meaning an illusory appearance is an inherent characteristic of light. The prism too is a reflection, meaning an illusory appearance of light.

 

Question from USA: 22-7-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar,

You are absolutely correct regarding my lack of wisdom and understanding.  I am an extremely humble practitioner of Surat Shabda Yoga and have been graced with love and devotion to a Perfect Master, Who has taken me in His refuge.  Though my progress is slow, it is abiding.  It will be awhile before I can match your impeccable wisdom, kind Sir.  I congratulate you on your certainty and brilliant elucidations.

Here is an excerpt from the teachings of Seth Shiv Dayal Singh, the august founder of the Radhasoami Faith (1818-1878).  I follow a contemporary living Saint with the same tenets and goal.

“This world is perishable and so also is all that pertains to it.  A wise man is he, who, having realized that it is all transitory and illusory, and consecrated his human form by devoting himself to ‘Bhajan’ and ‘Sumiran’ (aka “Simran” – listening to inner sounds and repetition of the Holy Name of the Supreme Being) and who, taking the fullest advantage of the various faculties which the Supreme Father has graciously endowed him with, has translated the invaluable jewel within him which is Surat (spirit) or the essence of his being, to its original abode."

Answer from Dr. Shankar,

A wise one understands that he does not do anything that he does every day. He understands that everything that he does every day happens to him and he does not do it. This is why the world is illusory which includes that man is not the doer. Illusory also means that it is temporary and transitory, meaning it changes. The surat (spirit) is always in its original abode.

 

Question from USA: 21-7-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar,

If I understand you correctly, Light and Sound is the great Maker of all. Fantabulous!! Thanks kindly for your time, which I know has been considerable.  I, too, have carefully crafted my emails to you attempting to be clear.  The very best of wishes to you, Sir!

Answer from Dr. Shankar

You neither understand me nor wisdom correctly as yet. Wisdom points that everything and every living entity is an illusory manifestation of light and sound and not a great maker of all. Wisdom points that sound is an illusory manifestation of light. This signifies that life manifests an illusory world, man and his mind. Your carefully crafted mails are knowledge but not wisdom.

 

Question from USA: 20-7-2017

My dear Sir,

Respectfully, Sat Shabd originates from above Prakriti or Brahm.  This Shabd is unknown to the Vedas or any other teaching.  Sant Mat is unique and transcends nature.  It exists and has no equal for returning the bedraggled soul Home, past the tyranny of mind and matter. There are regions to attain and cross.  One cannot take a leap, so say the Sat Gurus. But I cannot prove this to you, dear Sir.  The experience is only for those who take the shelter of a Perfect Saint...they are very rare. Wishing you continued love and understanding.

Answer from Dr. Shankar,

Firstly, understand that the soul is never bedraggled, because the soul is light and light is never bedraggled. Secondly, understand that sat gurus (enlightened gurus) neither say that you can take a step nor take a leap, because they understand that you are not a doer and also understand that a step or a leap happens to you and you cannot take either a step or a leap. The sat gurus who say that one cannot take a leap are not sat gurus, they are chit gurus (knowledgeable gurus), because they do not understand that you are not a doer. They believe that you a doer, while you are not. Thirdly, understand that wisdom is neither knowledge nor more knowledge. Wisdom is the understanding that man is not the doer, and that daily life is an illusion of light and sound.

 

Question from USA:19-7-2017

Dear Sir,

I appreciate your reply and apparent fixity of your knowledge/beliefs.  To me, it seems that you have fixated on laws of nature which apply to the physical universe, while cognition of the internal Sound Current/Nam is wholly a function of the soul.

Man has, indeed, met the soul.  The Soul is man's true being!  But to gain this knowledge of oneself it is imperative to have the association of an Adept of the Sound Current, Who will initiate the student in to the audible life stream which magnetically pulls the soul inwards and upwards during the spiritual practice.

This internal Sound, once again, can be heard with the Master's help and Grace.  It cannot be perceived by ordinary human intelligence, no matter how keen or determined.

Answer from Dr. Shankar

Firstly, Understand that what I share is wisdom and neither knowledge nor refutable beliefs. Man too is part of nature and not separate from nature. Secondly, understand that sound is part of nature and so is soul, meaning light.

Thirdly, understand that to do any practise, time is needed, and time is absent in any moment in life.

Fourthly, understand humans have intellect and not intelligence. The intelligence in life has evolved intellect in the human mind. Fifthly, understand that man is not the doer, and the enlightened have declared this.

Sixthly, understand that Naam indicated by Guru Nanak is the timeless and thoughtless ‘Here and Now’

 

Question from USA: 18-7-2017

Dear Sir,

And a grand illusion at that?  Who is the Author of this miracle existence?  Is it an accident?  Is the perceiver within the body pure or covered by veils of illusion and delusion?  Is there more than "this"?  Who is writing to you?  Who is reading your very kind emails?  Is individual existence terminated in Brahmand, like the dissolving of salt in the ocean?  Are we actors without a goal?  Is knowledge sufficient for satisfying the innermost heart?

Answer from Dr. Shankar

Light and sound is the author of this miraculous illusory existence. It is a miracle. The perceiver (the ego) of this miracle is covered by a veil which is the belief that the perceived is real, while it is an optical and auditory illusion of light and sound. Anything more too would be an optical and auditory illusion of light and sound. An illusory person is writing to me. The computer and the smart phone is evidence that proves that an illusory person is writing and reading to an illusory person who is responding and reading the mails. Individual existence transforms from one form to another. Salt and the ocean too are transformed forms of energy. We are actors and so too are the goals an illusion of light and sound. Wisdom satisfies the heart.

 

Question from USA: 17-7-2017

Dear Sir,

It was just a step to look at your website and see the work you are engaged in.  Your description of Light and Sound does not tally with Sant Mat, I am sorry to say.  May I humbly recommend further research on your part?

Answer from Dr. Shankar

Every atom of solid, liquid and gas in life is made up of atoms. An atom is energy, and energy is light. This implies that everything, including man is an illusory appearance of light. The human ear receives only sound-waves and sound-waves travel as light-waves through the auditory nerve to the brain where the light-waves as sound are mysteriously transformed as words. Only air comes out of the lungs and not words. Air after it passes through the vocal chords; the atoms in air vibrate as sounds. These sound-waves from the lungs appear as words to the human ear, by the mechanism explained above. The lightning in the sky is followed by thunder, which is sound. This implies that sound is an illusion of light-waves at lesser frequency, meaning speed. Therefore sound does not merge with light. Sound follows light. 

 

Question from USA: 16-7-2017

Dear Sir - This extract may help in understanding the Sound that is not a product of the 5 tattwas. One should strive to hear the dhunatmak Nam via

 surat (soul).

Answer from Dr. Shankar

Firstly, man has not met the soul to be able to hear sound via the soul. Soul enables man to hear sound. Secondly, light and sound are inseparable just as time and space are inseparable. Man cannot meet time via space or space via time. Similarly, any sound cannot be heard via the surat (soul), because soul is light.

 

Question from USA: !5-7-2017

Thanks Dr. Shankar.

Blessings In His Name,

Answer by Dr. Shankar,

A name (Nam) is an auditory illusion of sound Shabda. Light and sound is a blessing every moment.

Dr. Shankar

 

Question from USA: 14-7-2017

Dear Sir,

The "Anahata Shabd" of which I speak is non-atomic, non-molecular, not electric and not chemical.  It is "unstruck" and resounds of Itself.  To perceive It one must withdraw one's attention from the senses and the world, focusing one's attention behind and between the eyebrows, under the guidance of a Perfect Living Master.

Initiation into the Sound Current (Nam Dhan) is the highest of all gifts and will eventually transport the attention to its original Source.  There are many internal barriers, thus the need for competent guidance from start to finish.

You seem to be describing physical phenomena, the propagation of airwaves, and its transmutation to electro-chemical currents within the brain, the mechanics of which are explained by neural science.

This is not the Sound Current extolled by the Saints, as experienced by practitioners of Surat Shabd Yoga.  You may wish with benefit to investigate the term "Shabda". Thanks again for your interest. Blessings to you,

Answer from Dr. Shankar

Sound nevertheless is an illusion of light, and also anyone who focusses is made up of molecules, atoms, and chemicals. Chemicals, molecules and atoms are electric.  The same features are present behind and between the eyebrows.

Sound evolves in human beings as illusory words, for example (Nam) meaning name.  A letter in any language is a phoneme. I am explaining that sound is an illusion of light. Every atom of any saint is light. A saint too is an illusion of light. The sounds that come out of saints is transformed as illusory words. ‘Shabda’ means sound. Sound, however, cannot merge with light, because sound is an illusion of light at different wave-length.

 

Question from USA: 13-7-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar,

Thanks for your brilliant insights and lovely website. I want to ask you if you have heard of Surat Shabda Yoga, the path of merging one's consciousness with the Audible Life Stream, the internal Sound Cuirrent? Your feedback is welcome. Thank you kindly.

Answer from Dr. Shankar

The audible life stream is an auditory illusion of consciousness or light. Consciousness is light while the audible life stream is sound. The internal sound current is an illusion of consciousness or light at a lesser frequency. Sound cannot merge with light, because they are different frequencies of light. Please clarify how did you hear of us from Iain McNay's shoe?

 

Question from Canada: 12-7-2107

Dear Respected Dr. Shankar , S. Namaskar,

Appreciate your quick to the point responses. Thank you very much.

However you last response was not clear to me. Could I know when -all of a sudden - one day you found out in a different state with full clarity of wisdom? For some --they were severely depressed and were sitting in the garden or near a sea-shore and were suddenly swept over by this " calamity" - the full light of wisdom engulfing these. For some -they were having a total death like experience and then returned to the body after some time -totally changed - with full of wisdom. May I request your time , day and the event when you got to your current state?!! Please accept my salutations and Namaskar.

Answer from Dr. Shankar.

I can only speak for myself. The moment ‘here and now’ is all there is, and every moment is timeless and thoughtless. Therefore time, day and an event is knowledge that is not true.

 

Question from USA: 12-7-2017

Dr.Shankar

I was reading an article today. It was about awareness...It said that Awareness vibrates within itself and assumes the form of the finite mind, the finite mind being an "activity" of awareness....It seems to me that this description is not Advaita...It still is dualistic...As we discussed and your question to me was to enquire if it would be possible for anyone to be aware of being aware by themselves...And I would say NO...So how could awareness possibly assume the form of the finite mind?? That sounds ridiculous and makes the Energy of Life no more 1 but 2 ...I feel the articles explanation is incorrect...Would you agree? Thank You Hoping all is well

Answer from Dr. Shankar.

Awareness and the mind are always there.

Dr. Shankar

 

Question from Canada 11-7-2107

Dear Dr Shankar, Please accept my Salutations ,

Appreciate your responses to my queries of dated 30/6/2017 .
1) The more I read your spoken literature and answers to the seekers queries, more confused I get .The communication of the" point" perhaps gets totally diluted. It seems you are in different domain and myself in different; thus your wisdom gets into a " bookish" knowledge for me. Further I wish to know that your answers to my queries are exclusively meant for me (you knowing- my current level of consciousness) or these are applicable for all?
2) How can I " understand " your oft repeated three important words: "Happening" , Light , and Sound. ? Trust Life and be patient -means exactly what? Request your elaboration for me to exactly understand ......at least a single ray of Wisdom which shall bring me out of this tunnel.

2) Sir, I read your responses to the queries of July 1st, 2017( From India )

In this you have said as below:

"Gurus are either knowledgeable or enlightened. To talk about pineal gland/third eye/do mantras too happens to the knowledgeable gurus. They do not know that it is meant to happen to them and they do not do it. The enlightened gurus never ask anybody to do anything. The intelligence in life evolves the understanding through the intellect of either wisdom or knowledge, albeit illusory, in the flow."

You declare that Enlightened Gurus never ask anybody to do anything ?!! I am just shocked to the core. Saints and sages of all stature including Kabir, Nanak , Eknath , Namdev, Tukaram , Ramdas and recently Nisargadatta Maharaj also used to prescribe meditation, Japa, Mantra Chants, Prayers and even gave Mantra Diksha to a few depending upon individual state and level of understanding . He worked individually on each case and that " I Am That" book Q &A cannot be applied en mass -that is what he quipped.

Do you mean to say that all these " Realised" ones were just " Knowledgeable"( Pandits,Scholars,Philosophers) ?? 
3) Most humbly I would request you tell me/us how your transformation from "knowedgeable" Doctor and Scientist in US to one with " full of wisdom" happended. How did you enter " the Kingdom of God"? I have read of many greats who have divulged the particular- incident, happening or transformation . This will surely encourage everyone; at least me; that such a happening is not far away from me ! Thank you very much for your compassion . I bow before you ,S.Namaskar.

Answer from Dr. Shankar

1: The answers are to all who are at your current level of consciousness.

2: Happening means it evolves to be what it is. Light is everywhere, because every atom in every speck of life is light. Sound is light at a lesser frequency.

The book “I am That” applies to those who can understand it. The enlightened gurus when they prescribed knew that prescribing was happening to them and they do not do the prescribing. The “Realised” ones are knowledgeable and wise as well, otherwise they would not be able to live daily life. The knowledgeable are not wise.

3: Wisdom happened and I did not make wisdom to happen. When wisdom happened I also realised that medicine and research too happened to me. Therefore, I cannot say what made medicine, research and wisdom to happen to me.

 

Question from Canada: 11-7-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar,

Thank you very much for your response and the wisdom of being patient and understanding that this too shall pass as everything does sooner or later. It seems that the impatience in wanting it to pass sooner makes it more difficult.

Again thank you very much.

Answer from Dr. Shankar

You are correct.

 

Question from India: 11-7-2017

Dear Guruji,

Pranams. When does the Atman enters into human body [Child].

Answer from Dr. Shankar.

Atman is always there in the human sperm and the human ova.

 

Question from Canada: 10-7-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar,

Thank you for serving humanity by answering our letters. Once again I have a question about experiencing extremely difficult situations, and mentally I understand that they are thoughts in the conditioned mind, but when one is in the midst of intense turmoil in the mind and trust and patience appear to not be there at that time is there any way to be with the experience other than just suffering in it? At such a time it seems not possible to see this as an illusion......

Thank you so much for your assistance.

Answer from Dr. Shankar

It is very difficult for the mind to be with wisdom, when difficult situations both personal and not personal are near the individual. It is easy when they are far away from the individual. When wisdom cements it makes it much easier to live with the difficult situations. Be patient and brave with the understanding that the difficult situations will pass, because what comes by eventually passes by.

Dr. Shankar

 

Question from USA: 10-7-2017

Dr. Shankar- It would be the same as me trying to prove to you that I have wisdom…How could I really??? You could listen and say Yes I see, but you cant really feel what I feel….It feels something like that. Thanks

Answer from Dr. Shankar,

Knowledge does not understand that it cannot explain wisdom. Knowledge can memorize wisdom, but does not understand that it has memorized wisdom as knowledge. Knowledge believes it has wisdom, just as knowledge believes it has knowledge. Wisdom does not believe, it is sure and can prove that it is wisdom by explaining wisdom. Knowledge cannot explain wisdom. So far I have not said yes I see to you. I know that you know everything as knowledge and not as wisdom.

Dr. Shankar

 

Question from USA: 9-7-2017

Dr. Shankar—

But isn’t the fact that I KNOW that I do nothing wisdom? I know I can't explain that wisdom to another person and expect them to understand that fully…..It is a internal silent wisdom….

How could I explain it the proper way to another? I really know that I DO NOTHING……but at the same time there is this ‘’dual aspect’’, I don't know another way to describe it, that is still operating…..Similar to the phrase “ both sides of a coin” type of thing….It sounds contradictory but it is True for me as of now….

Answer from Dr. Shankar,

The fact that you know that you do nothing is knowledge. If the fact were wisdom you would realise it.

You can’t explain to another person because it is knowledge and not wisdom. If it were wisdom you would be able to explain it in the way the other would be able to understand it.

You do know that you DO NOTHING as knowledge. It is easy to know this as knowledge because it is just two words ‘DO’ and ‘NOTHING’. But the two words which is wisdom cannot be explained by knowledge. It can be explained only by wisdom. Wisdom can be borrowed but cannot be explained. The wise know both sides of the coin, one side is wisdom and the other side knowledge. Know you know both sides of the coin as knowledge.

 

Question from USA: 8-7-2017

Dr. Shankar—When you say ‘’the same power does Nothing at all”, ‘’that anything is done is an illusion in the human mind”, do you mean that our interpretation as it being a ‘’power’’ doing something can NEVER be interpreted any other way because of our limits in understanding being human, how our brains interprets it, how our eyes take in the light and transfer it to our brain for interpretation? So what we ‘’interpret” as a power is a VERY SMALL view of this immensity and that is pretty much all we can envision of it, or vaguely understand it? I feel that I understand the understanding that it is an illusion….I understand the illusion OF the Illusion (I KNOW IT DOES NOTHING) (I KNOW there is NO FRANK doing anything)…..but to describe that is absolutely impossible….and that is the way it is…Is this incorrect or correct? Thank You

Answer from Dr. Shankar

The interpretation of the intelligence of life by knowledge is superficial. Wisdom understands deeply the intelligence of life. To describe that Frank does nothing is not possible for the knowledge in Frank. Wisdom if present in Frank could explain that Frank does nothing.

 

Question from USA: 7-7-2017

Dr. Shankar——

Yes, I agree…..I KNOW that I KNOW there is Not a single thing I or You, or everyone on this planet or any entity in the Universe does by ‘’themselves”…..The same power growing my hair does it all……I wish these ‘’teachers’’ would explain it properly to the people listening to them…..Hoping your day is going well….

Answer from Dr. Shankar

The same power is in your hair as growing hair. The same power does nothing at all. That anything is done is an illusion in the human mind. The same power is in the illusion and in the mind as an illusion and as a mind. The explanation that happens to the teachers is what is meant to happen to them, so that deep understanding of what they teach could happen not only to them but also to those who listen to the teachers.

 

Question from USA: 6-7-2017

Dr. Shankar

Is the current teaching of "Being Aware that We Are Aware", being taught by some current so-called enlightened individuals, mean anything or is it complete nonsense? Hope all is well.

Answer from Dr. Shankar

Enquire whether it is possible for anyone to be aware of being aware by himself, or whether being aware that he or she is aware could happen to anyone by the intelligence in life and not by anyone.

 

Question from India: 5-7-2017

Dear Sir,

This brings me to the question that cause and effect equation amongst human beings or any living being does not work....it just appears as if some cause/action leads to effect but in reality the flow of life is driving the moment and not a cause leading to an effect. Am I right concluding the above. With best regards.

Answer from Dr. Vijai S Shankar

Yes, the intelligence in life is flowing the moment and not a cause leading to an effect. This signifies that that cause and effect are the same and not one leading to another. The first seed to cause vegetation cannot be found. This applies to the animal kingdom and human being as well.

 

Question from India: 4-7-2017

Dear Sir,

Having read your books and gone through your CD's and your answers to my three questions so far, I conclude that we as human beings need not do anything through our self effort (no meditation, no sadhna, no hard work, no mantra, no practices, no austerities, no puja, no self effort ) to improve our current condition. The life will unfold the way it is supposed to unfold. If anything such as meditation, hard work, mantra, sadhna, guru,  accomplishments has to happen they will happen as the life unfolds on its own....we as human beings cannot impact or change the future based on our self effort. With best regards.

Answer from Dr. Vijai S Shankar

Self-effort, meditation, sadhana, hard work, mantra, practises, austerities, puja happens to us if it is meant to happen to us. It happens so that a deeper understanding could happen to us that we do not do it to make it happen to us. Similarly, our current condition will improve if it is meant to improve, because though we believe that we do self-effort, meditation, sadhana, hard work, mantra, practises, austerities, puja, the current condition may not improve.

We as human beings cannot impact or change the future, which is as the present and not far away from it, because we do not make the moment in the present. The current condition is in the moment in the present, and human beings do not make the moment in life in the present.

 

Question from India: 3-7-2017

Dear Sir,

When lot of Gurus tell you to control your thoughts or only think positive thoughts.....are thoughts in your control or not....are the thoughts too, are controlled by life. With best regards,

Answer from Dr. Vijai S Shankar

Thoughts happen in the moment and a moment in life is not controlled by man. A moment in life always existed even before vegetation came into the moment. As the animal kingdom and human beings came after vegetation appeared in the moment, it indicates that man does not make the moment in life. What is in the moment it is manifested as an illusion of light, because it is impossible for the first seed of vegetation to have arisen from vegetation, because vegetation is needed for a seed of vegetation to be. However vegetation came to be in the moment of life. This indicates that the first seed of vegetation was an illusion of light. This signifies that thoughts happen in the moment as a illusion of light. Also the first thought of the day happens to man and man does not make the first thought of the day. Similarly, the rest of the thought for the day happens too and man merely claims that he thinks and can control his thoughts and have positive thoughts. Thoughts, albeit illusory, flow in a precise manner. This precision of the intelligence in life gives the deception that thoughts are controlled by life, because the human mind believes it controls. Thoughts are either positive or negative. Thoughts are what they are meant to be. Therefore, what gurus tell also happens to them and they do not do it, though they believe that they know what to say. What they say reflects the depth of understanding of life and mind that has happened to them, which is obviously very superficial.

 

Question from India: 2-7-2017

Dear Sir,

My conclusion from your answer on the 1-7-2017 is that life is not in our control and it is illusory....is my understanding correct that life is uncontrollable and illusory. Your aforementioned message is loud and clear. Hence when Ramana Maharishi used to say that do concentration on the right side of the heart  or some gurus talk about the pineal gland/third eye or do a mantra for betterment....it is not in our control to it....it will be the life flow which will decide. Additionally, when astrologers predict the future...that is all shooting in the dark. Last but not the least....is all this an illusion. These questions and their answers are very important to me since I am struggling with them for last 20 years plus. With best regards.

Answer from Dr. Vijai S Shankar

If man were able to make a moment in life, he would be able to control the moment and do anything in the moment. Man cannot make a moment in life, so it is not possible for him to control the moment or do anything in the moment. Illusory means that it changes, and is temporary. Everyone and everything in life changes and is temporary, therefore life which the mind thinks is life is temporary. Real signifies that it is constant, does not change, and is permanent.

Sri Ramana Maharishi never said to do anything. He only used to ask people who visited him to enquire who they are and placed his hand on his right side of chest. People misinterpreted him that he said to concentrate on the right side of the heart.

Gurus are either knowledgeable or enlightened. To talk about pineal gland/third eye/do mantras too happens to the knowledgeable gurus. They do not know that it is meant to happen to them and they do not do it. The enlightened gurus never ask anybody to do anything. The intelligence in life evolves the understanding through the intellect of either wisdom or knowledge, albeit illusory, in the flow.

Astrologers do not know that the future is as the present and not away from the present. This too happens to them to enable them to lead their lives and also give hope to others who visit astrologers. Yes astrology is an illusion, because if astrology were real, only a moment would exist and not the future. The astrologers would then speak only about the moment and not the future.

Understand that the struggling for the last 20 years plus was meant to happen to you and you were not struggling. It only appears to you that you were struggling.

Dr. Shankar

 

Question from India: 1-7-2017

Dear Sir,

I have been following you for the last ten years. Is my understanding correct....that everything in life is pre determined and we as humans cannot do anything to change it. Also Ramana Maharishi mentions the experience of self in the middle of the heart...is their anything like that which happens ? with best regards.

Answer from Dr. Vijai S Shankar

Life flows continuously, spontaneously, uncontrollably and unpredictably. Therefore there is neither determination nor pre-determination in life. The human mind believes that it does what it is determined to do and when it cannot do what it is determined to do, the human mind believes that life is pre-determined. The human mind does not understand that life is not what the mind thinks, believes and interprets life is. The human mind does not understand that what is meant to happen, albeit illusory, will happen and no force on earth can stop it happen, meaning the flow of life. Humans cannot change what is meant to happen, meaning the flow of life. Sri Ramana Maharishi signified that the heart beats is a flow just as life is a flow and the heart beats do not interpret life, just as life does not interpret life.

 

Question from Canada: 30-6-2017

Dear Respected Dr. Shankar , Please accept my Salutations .

My questions which still cause confusion and restlessness in me despite reading so much from the literature of different "realised" masters.

1) On one side all focus is on " Karma" and " rebirth" with ample supporting quotes from " Bhagvad Gita" and other Indian Scriptures. On the other side , "Advaita" path declares that " It is all Consciousness and after death the essence merges with the Consciousness" , So there is no " soul" no "Atma" nothing. I request your guidance on this opposite ways of understanding the " truth".

2) I was blessed and got initiated by late spiritual " Realised" Guru ( Shri P.P.Wasudeo Tiwari- whose couple of lectures are on U tube ) long time ago. The "Mantra" and Meditation as instructed by him was done by me for some time and irregularly - I just could not do it beause I was just not very much interested being very young and lust for life took over me - now that I want to know the truth-my master is physically no more to guide me. Many Gurus are there but all appear to me as "phoney" ( A term used by one of the great South Indian Thinker /Philosopher who is no more ). I am sure and convinced ( by inner /gut feeling) that you can now advise me - as to what need to be done to seek and find out the "Ultimate" ? Request your guidance. One more question: In BhagvadGita ...Krishna used the term " Yog Bhrashta" ... Request you to explain it me,Sir. Thank you for your Grace. Please accept my "Pranam"

Answer from Dr. Vijai S Shankar

1) Understand that quotes from Bhagavad Gita nd other Indian Scriptures are either knowledge or wisdom. Consciousness, soul, atma, meaning light is all there is. They are all synonyms and all are eternal and are not nothing.

2) Bhagwat Gita chapter 3 verse 27 declares that man is not the doer. So you were not doing the mantra and meditation, they both were happening to you.

No one is phoney, everyone reflects the understanding that has happened to him or her. There is nothing that needs to be done, all that is needed is deep understanding of life and the mind. There are many meanings to “Yog Bhrashta” no one can know with certainty what Krishna meant,

 

Question from USA: 28-6-2017

Dr. Shankar-

I will think about what you said this week……Thank You

Answer from Dr. Vijai S Shankar

Understand deeply what was said this week.

 

Question from USA: 27-6-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar

I would have rather not discovered Ramana Maharshi  or Nisargadatta  Maharaj or your Teachings...It would have been simpler to never to have heard of Advaita and have that interest stoked if you will ....It is quite the play of life isn't it? Thank You

Answer from Dr. Vijai S Shankar

Be grateful to life for gifting you Sri Ramana Maharishi and Nisargadatta Maharaj. Deep understanding of play means an expression of light and sound and not what play means to superficial understanding.

 

Question from USA: 26-6-2017

Dr. Shankar

Hopefully this stubborn personality will really understand that one day!

Thank You

Answer from Dr. Vijai S Shankar

Deep understanding is independent of any type of personality and not dependent on a particular personality.

 

Question from USA: 25-6-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar

Restlessness and Boredom......maybe from the sense of Boredom...I will try to be patient Dr. Shankar

Answer from Dr. Vijai S Shankar

Sense of boredom indicates you are not happy with the moment that is as it is. Understand that the moment cannot be other than what it is. Understand that if you try to be patient, you will be impatient and not patient. When you understand that the moment and whatever is in the moment happens by itself, you will be patient.

 

Question from USA: 24-6-2017

Dr.Shankar

Good Morning---It seems as if I am evolving into a state of restlessness...I understand what we have discussed about the illusory urge to be "other" places, it's better there etc., or "life is boring as is", etc....It is becoming quite stressful and for no good reason because I have all that people would want---since home, health, lovely good person as wife, family is healthy, noble job etc.... but understanding has NOT happened regarding the eternal thought less and timeless NOW...and it's precisely the shallow knowledge of it and the lack of Deep knowledge that is stress, making the blood pressure rise...And there is nothing wrong in my life is the paradox...Does more inquiry clear the way? Or is it not meant at this time to happen? It is quite a horrible internal private feeling that is almost constant, a boredom if you will....Hoping all is well

Answer from Dr. Vijai S Shankar

You say it is restlessness and also it is almost boredom, boredom and restlessness is a contradiction. Though it appears it is not meant to happen at this time; it does not however mean that it is never going to happen. Patience is the key.

 

Question from USA: 22-6-2017

Dr.Shankar—

Was pondering a human act today….Crying….Crying cannot be real….Because it reflects a want not met, or a desire not met, or a love lost—all pointing to an illusory I, or Me…..If there was no real I would the human emotion of sadness followed by crying even be real? Was driving today and when I drive I think of different topics and that one came up….Thank You

Answer from Dr. Vijai S Shankar

The real “I” does not exist. An evolved “I” lives the emotions and neither describe them nor finds a reason for the emotion. If you were thinking while driving, enquire who was driving the car.

 

Question from USA: 21-6-2017

Dr. Shankar——

I am chewing…..and I understand that my whole life of acquired intelligence is absolutely NOTHING compared to what goes on in Silence…My Heart, my Brain, my whole Physiology is functioning at an intelligence beyond comprehension…..I have studied Textbooks 700-800 pages in length, for Nursing school i found Renal Physiology most demanding, and yet it is done by LIFE in absolute silence, absolute darkness, without the need of a Brain, or eyes, or Hands or any ego…..Most amazing….The most brilliant Human is and all we can accomplish, EVER, is not even worth mentioning…LIFE simply does, and transforms, and dies, and lives, spontaneously, endless manifestations——and I have never done a damn thing! and never will…….I will chew more….I don't know why I did not see this in this way all these years……I had intimations but never payed attention to it more fully….I wish I had sooner...Thank You

Answer from Dr. Vijai S Shankar

You did not see the way you see now all these years, because you have never done anything including the way you saw things all these years. Wisdom happens spontaneously, uncontrollably and unpredictably just as knowledge did. Everything that is meant to happen happens precisely at the precise moment.

 

Question from USA: 20-6-2017

Dr.Shankar--

I was pondering over Kaivalya Gita Volume 6 today and Time....If we look at supposed "distance" in the Universe, the distance and time to our Nearest Star Proxima Centauri is enormous, beyond the conception of the Human brain actually...if we view it in a size way, we would be microscopic in size from that distance,(much smaller actually),and vise-versa..So we are small AND large simultaneously.... (similar to fractals)? just as time is Silence AND Sound simultaneously...But when in deep-dreamless sleep there are NO activities, no time, no anything--then awake and Sound comes, activities come, these ideas of Time and Size come etc...Is Pure Silence the essence of them all then? The silence not having anything to do with sound ..... Hope All is Well

Answer from Dr. Vijai S Shankar

Sound is an illusion of silence.

 

Question from USA: 18-6-2017

I also had a quick read of your article "One Way" today at work and it was exactly needed for this particular day.

Thank You

Answer from Dr. Vijai S Shankar

The article is needed for any circumstance and situation in the mind about life.

 

Question from USA: 17-6-2017

Dr.Shankar
This day is one of those ER work days in which I am having a hard time observing the fake "I" and all it's non-sense.....

Answer from Dr. Vijai S Shankar

Understand that the “I” is fake meaning illusory and so too is its nonsense fake meaning illusory. The evolved "I" is calm when it rests in the moment, which is without a thought.

 

Question from USA: 16-6-2017

Dr. Shankar-

Had quite a interesting day yesterday in the ER. Thought of your words and viewed Life transform each moment as Light and Sound in the many dramas of all the so-called individuals who came through, each with their ''own'' situations, sadnesses, smiles, etc....I quite remembered what you wrote in Kaivalya Gita Volume 7, page 181----"That is why every Man or Women has to receive what is in Life so that Understanding may happen".....Most who come through those doors are not ready for the depth of that----and I also knew that lack of understanding was meant for them at that time as well.....I do notice some, on rare occasion, who seem to have a look in their eyes, NO MATTER what is happening in that setting, that indicates they have received AND understood rightly....Thank You and Wishing All is Well-

Answer from Dr. Vijai S Shankar

Yes, the eyes are the windows that shine the depth of your understanding.

 

Question from USA: 13-6-2017

Dr. Shankar--

I made an interesting observation last few days. It has to do with Human Being's and Animals. I was driving through heavy traffic and I have noticed over and over how when one wants to move over and puts a signal on, 99% of the time the person behind SPEEDS up to not let ''their'' position get taken. Or, people are always speeding and making the BEST moves for them. I also was observing Lions in Africa after a kill on television. They as well ''position'' near the food that is BEST for them, even to the point of great aggression to Lions of the same family..We are ALL exactly the SAME....Our ''ideas'' of right and wrong, our notions of what is ''moral'' or not are very very wrong....For, as you say quite often, LIFE simply IS-----and it NEVER has anything to do with ''US".....Instead of getting angry at the other driver, we should SEE that it is meant to be this way and it cannot be any other way......I see that....Would you agree as well? Thank You.

Answer from Dr. Vijai S Shankar

Our ideas of right and wrong, our emotions of what is moral are not wrong. They are not deeply understood. Getting angry is what it is meant to be, just as the lions position is where it is meant to be. When deep understanding of life happens one is calm no matter how life is.

 

Question from USA: 11-6-2017

Dr.Shankar——

Hoping all is well and wishing you a good day…..I don’t feel any questions bubbling the last few days—it has just an emptiness simply observing its own energy……But hope all is well.

Answer from Dr. Vijai S Shankar

Energy cannot be observed, because observing is energy and energy cannot observe itself. Emptiness simply observing its own energy is a spiritual belief which is not true. Have you seen the DVD ‘Non-Duality- Life as it is’? It is a visual explanation of life as it is.

 

Question from USA: 9-6-2017

Dr. Shankar

It is time to throw away the fake cement mixture I believed was real....The tiny regions of space that I inhabit and the solidness that I "believe" defines these regions is incorrect...it is all one great openness that I have been overlooking...I must learn to see in a different way...the cement has not been real cement you are right....Thank You

Answer by Dr.Shankar

The learning and seeing life in the right way too will happen, if it is meant to happen.

 

Question from Canada: 5-6-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar,

Thank you for the article "Deconditioned". The sentence "Wisdom helps to accept life as it is in every moment", I have noticed that when there is acceptance in a very difficult situation, there is a sense of peace present. Also when you say that knowledge does not come because of man's hard work and effort, it would seem to apply to wisdom as well?So how does wisdom come? In the past you had mentioned trust and patience and I appreciate that very much and even here I see that I cannot make that happen but at times by some grace it comes.....Thank you .

Answer by Dr. Shankar

Wisdom too just as knowledge comes when it is meant to come by Grace including hard work and effort. They do not due to had work or effort, including by hard work or effort. It is not humans who make anything come or happen, though it appears so to the human mind. Trust and patience too happens when it is meant to happen by Grace.

 

Question from USA: 4-6-2017

Dr. Shankar

I am clear in the understanding yes....I find it extremely clear, almost a palpable clear view, but it does not cement as of yet.....is that even possible? A clear understanding with a lack of complete concretization? It sounds quite contradictory but I know both are equally true for me as of this point...I have known it like this for quite some time---at least 3-4 years I must say. I have searched for the "viewer", tried to find a "doer"--I know there is none--but the cement refuses to harden. It may sound funny or strange but it is exactly like that.

Answer by Dr. Shankar

If cement refuses to harden it is not cement, meaning it is still superficial knowledge and not wisdom. When deep understanding of knowledge cements, which is wisdom, you begin to live peacefully with life any way it happens every moment.

 

Question from USA: 3-6-2017

Dr. Shankar

That helped me.........I will continue to observe in this way every moment.......

Thank You, have a good evening

Answer by Dr. Shankar

It is impossible to observe every moment. Observe and understand that it is not only impossible to observer every moment but it is also impossible for the mind to instruct every muscle in the body every moment of daily life and not only during work. But nevertheless daily life including work happens. Are you clear?

 

Question from Belgium: 2-6-2017

On article 'beliefs'

I understand beliefs as being illusions but why do certain beliefs persist, are being reacted to and make life difficult even though deep down we know they are false? like for example the need to be loved or accepted and many more beliefs that are not easy to approach and even recognize. Can we trace them back by observing the reactions we have to life's situations?

Answer by Dr. Shankar,

Beliefs that persist and reacted to, make life difficult, because we have not understood deeply as yet that life is not controlled by beliefs, and life will unfold the way it is meant to unfold, and man cannot make life to unfold the way we believe life should unfold. We have not understood as yet that love is unconditional and it is wisdom to accept others as they are and not how beliefs expect others should be. But we believe that love and acceptance is conditional, whereas it is not. Similarly we believe that we can trace back by observing reactions to life’s situations, but have not deeply understood as yet that we know the situation in life with certainty only after the situation happens and never before. Once the situation happens we cannot trace it back because it has already happened. The situation will work out the way it is meant to work out and not the way beliefs expect situation to work out. The way situations work out may or may not be what is believed. The important point is: situations work out not because of beliefs.

 

Question from USA: 2-6-2017

Dr. Shankar—

I have to work but when I get some time I will look into the DVD. I have both I am That, and Who Am I……..They have opened doors in the mind the last few years but some of the locks are stubborn…..”Life Keeps Doing”……the fake “I" wants it its way……It fights ferociously…..Thank You

Answer by Dr. Shankar

When at work, observe that the fake “I” does not inform you how to move every moment of the work. Also understand that many muscles move every moment while working and the fake “I” does not and cannot inform individual muscles every moment of work. The work nevertheless happens. When deep understanding happens that life does not happen the way the fake “I” wants life to happen, the fake “I” as an evolved “I” begins to live peacefully with life the way it happens every moment.

 

Question from USA: 1-6-2017

Dr. Shankar—

Yes, you are most correct….Very Honest and a Very straightforward to the point individual…I had no choice in life, I am a New York City Italian. I believe the Universe had me born into a Funeral Home Business Owner’s Family to learn the truths of life at a very early age. I must say that after all these years of deep philosophical enquiry and hunger, I find myself, most particularly at work, wanting to Be in another place, asking my wife to move ‘’somewhere’’ else, having some sort of dis-satisifaction of a sort I cannot quite put a finger on—even with the many understandings of life I believe I have gained over the years. It is as if I am missing ‘’something” going on, but there is nothing going on some where else..Always another book on Nisargadatta, absorbing the words, always more Ramana, absorbing the words, but it seems not quite enough.The Universe or Life I know has done what it wants, and life is good, there is this ‘’unknown’’ thing that seems to be there that I cant understand as of yet…Thank You for Your Message

Answer from Dr. Shankar

Both Sri Ramana Maharishi and Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj did not write any book in English. Both wrote notes in their vernacular language which is Tamil and Marathi respectively. The only books on their deep understanding of life written in English is ‘Who am I’ written by a close friend of Sri Ramana Maharishi, and ‘I am That’ written by Maurice Frydman a close friend of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj. Life keeps doing every moment Frank even after you are enlightened. Please listen to the CD ’ups and downs’ or see the DVD ‘ups and downs’. Life in the 21st century has explained in detail the illusory of the mind and its conditioned beliefs in detail and is recorded in CD’s. Please also let me know your thoughts on DVD ‘Non-Duality- Life as it is’.

 

Question from USA: 31-5-2017

Thank You Dr. Shankar, will be thinking of this deeply today…

Answer from Dr. Shankar

You are honest. Honesty opens the door to enlightenment.

 

Question from USA: 30-5-2017

Dr. Shankar——

Thank You…..”The Day is Always Good”….That is it right there….One can have all this so-called wisdom, thinking one has understood Advaita completely, and one HAS NOT. The day is always good——with Sunshine, with Rain, with Cancer, with the epitome of Health…….always good…I understand that I don't understand that fully yet…I only ‘’thought’’ I did….One can also talk about it, sounding wise to others, teaching it, sounding wise to others——But not actually KNOWING the day is always good…..and there is NOTHING one can do to make it happen either…..Is the realization that one knows that he does Not know anything hold any significance? Thank You

Answer from Dr. Shankar

When you talk about the day to sound wise to others it is only knowledge and not wisdom. This becomes evident when they have to face the day themselves which they neither like nor accept. Both Sri Ramana Maharishi and Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj had cancer. They lived the day. They deeply understood that what the mind thinks of the day is not only illusory but also it cannot make the day to be what it thinks the day is. Realization is the understanding that what one knows is not only illusory but also cannot make what he knows. Honesty opens the door to deep understanding of life and mind.

 

Question from USA: 28-5-2017

Dr. Shankar——

Hope your day finds you feeling well. I kept in mind your email at work and viewed the day and different interactions with people in a fresh way. I was also thinking of a question and wanted your opinion. Over the years I have done much research on so-called ‘’paranormal’’ phenomena. I surmise growing up in a family of Funeral Directors and owners of a Funeral Home in New York City planted that intrigue in my mind. I can say this from my experience- I have seen a few phenomena in my life that defy normal rational scientific explanation, as well as myself displaying so-called Psychic phenomena to friends and strangers over the many years,(especially after meditation for a long time), that would be impossible to explain otherwise. But, I have always viewed them from the perspective of a Vedanta background. I never for once thought there was any “ FRANK” doing anything….Nor did or do view all these claims of afterlife non-sense as anything REAL….The only Real to me that ever was was the state that You speak of, Nisargadatta Maharaj spoke of, Ramana spoke of.….That place of absolute silence that is Nature or as you say quite often LIFE——similar to being put under Anesthesia for surgery or deep dreamless sleep…That merging place, of no more identity, but just BEING itself...….From that viewpoint, in your opinion, could LIFE manifest these illusory states and phenomena as well and that it is just a normal phenomena in the endless projections of the “ONE”, projecting as endless variety? Thank You and Hope You Day is Good

Answer from Dr. Shankar

The capacity of the mind to imagine due to knowledge is unimaginable. Deep understanding of life and mind, which is wisdom, reveals that psychic and paranormal phenomenon is normal illusory projection of light. The “ONE” reflects light and its varied endless variety of illusions. The day is always good. To the mind with thoughts the day is either good or not good, albeit illusory.

 

Question from USA: 27-5-2017

Dr. Shankar----

I also see that there is no ''waiting'' for any of this to happen either....Waiting passively implies a ''will'' and there simply is not any....LIFE or INTELLIGENCE is only there....A ''will'' means an " I "......and I have looked for a long time and '' know " there is no possible way an I is there---BUT----fragments have happened, not that deep deep understanding as yet.....This is another thought I wanted to ask from my first question today....I thank you for your insightful responses...

Answer from Dr. Shankar

The “I” therefore is illusory and not real, which indicates that daily life is illusory and not real. You are always welcome to question and ponder.

 

Question from USA: 26-5-2017

Dr. Shankar----

Thank You for your response...I have been thinking over it most intensely...You wrote "when deep understanding of meditation, that it is not a particular act,is not done by man happens, it de-conditins the Psyche. Then every action, albeit illusory, will BE meditation and not a particular act." Would you be in agreement with how UG Krishnamurti described it? He wrote " What is there is a calm, smoothly functioning, highly intelligent and responsive Biological Machine, nothing more. One looks for evidence of a self, psyche, or ego: there is only the simple functioning of a sensitive organism." It is this LIFE that make it so is'nt it? And this thing we call LIFE really has NO-Words? This is the state yes? Thank You 

Answer from Dr. Shankar

Yes, life merely flows. Life is timeless and thoughtless. This is the state of life.

 

Question from Canada: 24-5-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar,

In the article ‘Range’ it is said that everyone and everything that is known exists on earth within a range, plants, animals and humans. What about the enlightened beings? Thank you.

Answer from Dr. Shankar

The enlightened beings too exist within range.

 

Question from USA: 23-5-2017

Dr Shankar---

Read ''opinions''......How do we go from the common conditioning of " there he/she comes, they are etc etc etc"......to absolutely NO opinion anymore of that specific person or any other......It is so pervasive in the Human Psyche that it almost has a life of it's own....No amount of meditation or reading changes that....But an understanding of it in a deep way does.....Where does one go from the wisdom of seeing it and its stupidity to actually BEING that newness of sight? And is there actually a where or how? I know there can't be, but wish to hear your view....

Answer from Dr. Shankar

There is no ‘how’ to go from common (superficial) conditioning of “there he/she comes etc. Opinions are always there but not deep understanding of opinions. Common conditioning of opinions evolves as wisdom and you neither make common understanding nor deep understanding to happen. So there is no “how’ do we go from common conditioning to deep understanding of persons. Opinions are always there but deep understanding of opinions keeps you at ease in every moment of daily life, because you accept he/she and others as they come and go. The conditioned human psyche is common. Meditation as a particular act done by man does not change the conditioned psyche. When deep understanding of meditation that it is not a particular act, is not done by man happens, it deconditions the psyche. Then every action, albeit illusory, will be meditation and not a particular act. When the wisdom of seeing happens one does not go anywhere. He keeps seeing from wherever he is and being whoever he is. There is actually no a ‘where or how’, it is always here and now as it is

 

Question from Canada: 21-5-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar, In your last response to me where it says "wisdom does not make a difficult situation easy, which reflects the conditioning of the mind." At this point I understand that to mean that wisdom does not make the situation easy according to the mind’s preference, so is there anything that wisdom can bring to the situation? Thank you for all your responses.

Answer from Dr. Shankar

When understanding of wisdom cements it deconditions the mind to difficult situations. This is what wisdom brings to difficult situations.

Dr. Shankar

 

Question from Netherlands: 21=5-2017

Dear Dr Shankar,

I understand now why you respond to me by saying that thoughts are indivisibe refers to opposites and also say that thoughts are separate and not indivisible. It confused me at first but now I understand that I had not read the article carefully enough, i.e. without context. You make it clear in article that thoughts are separate and why that is and that thoughts are indivisible refers to opposites. Thank you for your concern and patience.

Answer from Dr. Shankar

Now you understand that in articles of wisdom the context is questioned if wisdom of any word is not understood. Without patience or concern wisdom cannot be explained to anyone, especially to those who understand only knowledge but not wisdom.

 

Question from Netherlands: 20-5-2017

Dear Dr Shankar,

With reference to your reply on 17-5, I understand and understood that thoughts are indivisible refers to opposites, which is what you explain in the article “Thoughtless State”. That two thoughts appear as one thought, implying that thoughts are indivisible, and that life is known by thoughts that are indivisible, meaning that life is indivisible, is, in the context of the rest of the article, a clarification to me that life is indivisible, even though the mind makes life appear divisible. The same clarification led me to think about the clarification in the context of the other four articles I mentioned, which are The Seen, The Done, The known and The Spoken. I wondered: if seeing, moving, knowing and hearing and listening are identifiable by thoughts, does the fact that thoughts are indivisible indicate that seeing, moving, knowing, and hearing and listening are indivisible as well? I do not think it means that I read the words ‘thoughts are indivisible’ without context (or I am not aware that I do), what I actually wanted and still want to understand is: does the fact that thoughts, which identify functions of instinct and of intellect are indivisible say something about (the functions of) instinct and intellect? If so: what?

Answer from Dr. Shankar

Opposites are indivisible and that thoughts are separate is what is meant in the article. Superficial understanding of life reveals that separate thought are indivisible. Separate and indivisible do not mean the same. Life is indivisible, because life is energy and energy is indivisible. Understand that thoughts are separate from the other thought and not indivisible. Understand that seeing, moving, knowing and hearing in life is energy and energy is indivisible. You have not understood that thoughts are separate and not indivisible. Thoughts do not identify the functions of instinct. Intellect superimposes the singular movement of life with intellectual thoughts, and separate intellectual thoughts identify the singular movement of life intellectually. Your question if so what? Refers to what?

 

Question from Canada: 20-5-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar,
would you please say a little more about what range means from your article Range.  And thank you for reminding me of patience yet again.

Answer By Dr. Shankar

Range in the article indicates that everything that exists as thoughts, exist in a variation between lower and upper limits.

 

Question from Netherlands: 19-5-2017

Dear Dr Shankar,

Because of your reply, I would like to ask you two questions. You explained to me in a reply (20 Febr) that man knows because of the function of knowing in intellect, which made me conclude, perhaps wrongly, that man sees because of the function of seeing in intellect and speaks because of the function of hearing and listening in intellect etc. Are seeing, moving, listening and hearing functions in intellect as well, just as knowing is? If seeing, moving, listening and hearing are functions in intellect, just as knowing is, my next question is: are the functions in intellect indivisible?

Answer by Dr Shankar

Seeing, moving, listening and hearing is a function of instinct. What we see, what a movement is, what we listen and hear is a function of the intellect.

Opposites as thoughts is indivisible, and the opposites is a function of intellect.

 

Question from Canada: 19-5-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar,

I have some understanding of what is said and thank you,... a question comes...in the range of where I am and the range of where others are the experience I appear to be facing often is being "stuck" in the middle of an extremely intense situation where there are demands and expectations made on me from the "bad" and expectations from the "good".

And I see that in the "bad" there is good and in the good there can be "bad" meaning possibly a lack of understanding and compassion. Also what is seen is that in myself an intense conflict between the the bad and good is playing out and the need for clarity is there. Thank you for the opportunity to inquire and I am very grateful.

Answer By Dr. Shankar

Please understand that compassion is unconditional love, unconditional care and unconditional concern. Everything gets played out precisely as it is meant to get played out, albeit illusory. Wait patiently and things will work out. Wisdom does not make a difficult situation easy, which reflects the conditioning of the mind.

 

Question from Netherlands: 18-5-2017

Dear Dr Shankar,

Because of your reply, I would like to ask you two questions. You explained to me in a reply (20 Febr) that man knows because of the function of knowing in intellect, which made me conclude, perhaps wrongly, that man sees because of the function of seeing in intellect and speaks because of the function of hearing and listening in intellect etc. Are seeing, moving, listening and hearing functions in intellect as well, just as knowing is? If seeing, moving, listening and hearing are functions in intellect, just as knowing is, my next question is: are the functions in intellect indivisible?

Answer by Dr Shankar

Seeing, moving, listening and hearing is a function of instinct. What we see, what a movement is, what we listen and hear is a function of the intellect.

Opposites as thoughts is indivisible, and the opposites is a function of intellect,

 

Question from Canada: 18-5-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar

In your article titled Range, it is said that it is the bad which teaches anyone to be compassionate and loving to everyone and everything unconditionally. Also it says that when deep understanding happens that the bad only enables you to know what is good, you become compassionate to the bad. My question is what is compassion really? I am not clear on it as the tendency for me is that to be compassionate is to agree to what the so called other wants from me to fulfil what they believe is a need that conflicts with my need for well-being. An example would be another's extreme demands which then impacts others in a negative way.

Answer by Dr. Shankar

Compassion arises when you understand that others are in a range and neither you nor others can change the range to be other than what the range is to anyone.

 

Question from USA: 18-5-2017

Thank You…"Meant To Happen"….that seems to be the bottom line, the final line…….That is always pointing to absolutely NO DOER….and the conditioned mind, which is meant to be conditioned, sees it and yet at the same exact time does not want to see it that way…and That is meant to be as well……Life or God does what it wishes…….Maybe questioning over and over is not the correct way? If that is the ultimate reality, the ultimate answer, then I understand BUT have not as yet become merged with that —which would facilitate that deep Trust that I obviously do not not have as yet, No amount of Time or Study can even remotely bring that about either….At least I have understood that this year...…..I understand….Thank You

Answer by Dr. Shankar

Life or God manifests what is meant, albeit illusory, and not what life or God wishes. Questioning deeply (if it happens) reveals the understanding that what is meant, albeit illusory, only happens. Deep understanding is not depended, it is independent. It happens in many ways including study or by no particular way. What is meant to happen, albeit illusory, only happens.

 

Question from Netherlands: 17-5-2017

Dear Dr Shankar,

Thank you for explaining in the article “Thoughtless State” that thoughts are indivisible and not separate, though they appear separate and divisible when they do happen. While re-reading this article I wondered: it has been explained in the articles The Seen, The Known, The Done and The Spoken that there is only seeing, knowing, moving and listening and hearing, which becomes the seen, the known, the done and the spoken respectively when it is identified by a thought. Thoughts however are indivisible as you have explained as well. If it were true that life is divisible, as the mind thinks it is, would it have been possible for indivisible thoughts to identify anything? How could, for example, seeing be identified by a thought as the seen if thoughts are indivisible and seeing is divisible? Would it have been possible for seeing, knowing, moving, listening and hearing to be identified by indivisible thoughts?

Answer by Dr. Shankar

Read the article ‘Thoughtless State’ and understand the words ‘thoughts are indivisible’ with context. Thoughts are indivisible refers to opposites.

 

Question from USA: 17-5-2017

Dr. Shankar--

I have another inquiry....I was reading Kabir in which he wrote: I recited the sacred names, a million times: performed austerities and penances But I did not realize myself. when I met the perfect master, Niranjan-the Unblemished

Instantly I realized the Highest And abided in the state of non-attention---ALAK. This work ALAK means the state before conception... You write in Kaivalya Gita Volume 2 page 28-29 " Man is yet to understand that the world gets manifested because of the Known, which is thinking. Hence the world is nothing but a manifestation of thoughts: this is the most profound realization that could happen to man"....I feel profoundly that I do understand this state of Alak as it directly co-incides with this teaching of the Known as simply thoughts, but conversely, I also understand that prior to conception I can not possibly be thinking because there is NO-Thing there, No-Individuality....So then it must only mean that all experience HERE in a body is simply thoughts yes----but we must express and communicate somehow....Our trying to explain, trying to understand must be True/False all at the same time.....This is awfully hard to explain in words but it must be done.... The reality prior to our ''thoughts'' cannot be talked about, so in a sense we have to be all wasting/not-wasting our time?

Answer by Dr. Shankar,

Communication and expression happens to us if it is meant to happen, and we do not make them to happen. Our trying to explain happens to us and we do not try to explain by ourselves, because we do not make the moment in which trying is present, albeit illusory, though it appears that we are trying to explain. Similarly, we cannot try to understand, understanding happens to us if it is meant to happen, because understanding is an inherent characteristic of intellect and man does not control intellect. Whatever is explained is is either true or false. There is nothing that must be done. If it is meant to happen it will happen. The reality prior to our thoughts cannot be talked about. It can only be pointed to. Time is not wasted by anyone, because what is meant to happen only happens.

 

Response from USA to answer: 17-5-2017

Dr Shankar 

Thank You for the response…..

Answer by Dr. Shankar

Always here to share wisdom with humanity.

 

Question from USA: 16-5-2017

Dr. Shankar---

I have been reading your writings on TRUST, what you have written to me regarding Trust, and pondering over it.....I see something quite remarkable all over---All the people who "seem" to know about trust, talk about it, preach about it-----DONT HAVE IT.....The rarity of the complete TRUST we have been talking about-----not many walking the planet have it as yet---they sure act like they do though.....Why is it so rare? Thank You

Answer by Dr. Shankar,

The conditioned mind expects, because the mind is conditioned that man and woman are doers and can do and must do the expected. Therefore the conditioned mind superficially understands trust as expectation, which is common and not rare. Deep understanding of trust however is rare, that life flows in only one way and what is meant to happen to an individual only happens, albeit illusory.

Dr. Shankar

 

Question from Netherlands: 15-5-2017

Dear Dr Shankar,

Thank you for the article “Argue”. What does man need to understand to be in harmony with the knowledge he has in his mind? That if he accepts the knowledge he has in his mind unconditionally by understanding that it has evolved in him, and he or anyone else has not made it happen to him, he will accept the knowledge that others speak to argue with him unconditionally as well?

Answer by Dr. Shankar,

He will accept the other how he or she is and would not expect the other to change to how he expects the other to be. This is what the article “Argue” refers to

 

Reply from Canada to answer: 14-5-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar,

Thank you thank you for the clarity and love which appear to go together....

The words patience and trust are like a lifeline out of the present situation that appears very difficult for the conditioned mind to face and understand. Lots of appreciation.

Answer by Dr. Shankar,

I understand it is difficult for the conditioned mind to understand when life does not go the way the mind expects life to go. But when it is understood that life flows in only one way and when the way it flows is interpreted by the mind it is comfortable if the interpretation is liked by the mind, but when life does not flow the way the mind interprets, the mind is uncomfortable and finds it difficult to understand life. This is the reason why patience and trust in life and not the mind is vital.

 

Reply from Canada to answer: 12-5-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar,

Thank you so so much for the response.

Answer by Dr. Shankar,

Always here to help.

 

Question from Canada: 11-5-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar

Over the years I have read and listened to a lot of what you share, pretty much on a daily basis and find it very helpful. As I have shared with you previously, about the extreme dynamics in my family the wisdom that you share has been helpful for some clarity and I can see that more maturity of that is needed. In the past few weeks the events that appear to be happening in "my" daily life have intensified to the point of where some members of my family appear to be in life and death situations to an even more extreme and though some understanding of " man is not the doer, speaker and thinker ," and that what is meant to happen will happen is there, I am finding that I feel very affected by it all at "the present moment in time". I am asking if you can please help me to further understand how to be with this. I thank you for all your help and the ongoing articles that you share. Thank you again.

Answer by Dr. Shankar,

Death will eventually happen to one and all and no one can determine the exact moment when it will happen to anyone. As regarding life, what is meant to happen only happens, and you know with certainty what happens only after it happens. And whatever happens cannot be changed once it has happened and also it cannot be other than what is meant to happen. So patience and trust in life helps in overcoming any present situation that appears difficult for the conditioned mind to face or understand.

 

Question from USA: 6-5-2017

Dr. Shankar-

TRUST...thank you for that explanation...There is DEEP understanding here, in this body and mind, but there is also the internal unsatisfactoriness with some aspects of life as we have discussed..Thinking on them still does not make them come clear and yes---that is understood that it is meant to be---but it seems that the fighting with the idea of Trust is also meant to be--and it is obviously...Many many years of study of Advaita, comparitive religions etc......i want to have a garage sale and dispose of all my books...all my useless garbage pile of ''knowledge''...The only words that seem useful still are Your level of explanation and still Nisargadatta and Ramana Maharshi...The trust in life does get tiring, even though life is not bad.........Does this make sense? Is it possible to get tired of Advaita?

Thank You

Answer by Dr. Shankar

The intelligence in Life manifests everything and evolves everything as well. Therefore life evolves understanding and advaita as well. You have not been exposed to evolved advaita as yet. When you read or listen to advaita that has evolved, trust in life will happen. Start by listening to few CD’s available on life as it is, meaning evolved advaita. They are available in the same website as the Kaivalya Gita. Your conditioned mind will not understand them initially. Listen to them a few times and wisdom of life as it is will happen. This understanding will help you understand daily life deeply. You will not get tired of evolved advaita because advaita is life as it is.

 

Question from Netherlands: 5-5-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar,

How did shame existed in primitive man or how does it still exist in animals? There are for example many animals who need to hide to survive only minimally, whereas other animals have evolved to hide ingeniously to survive. Has the need for vegetation and animals to take shelter and hide to survive evolved in man in what his mind describes as ‘shame’?

Answer by Dr. Shankar,

Primitive man did not have shame, he lived just as animals did and still do now. The movements of animals to survive are precise and happen due to the intelligence of life and not by animals themselves. Interpretation of animal movements as hiding to survive happens to man due to his intellect, which is superficial understanding. Vegetation and animals do not hide to survive. They survive as they are meant to survive. That they hide to survive is superficial understanding that has happened to man. When the human mind believed that man is a doer shame happened to man, albeit illusory, when he could not do. When deep understanding happens to man that he is not the doer just as vegetation and animals, shame will not happen to him.

 

Question from USA: 3-5-2017

Dr. Shankar---

Can you elaborate deeply on ''Trust'' in Life possibly? Thank You

Answer by Dr. Shankar,

Trust in life happens when you understand that what is meant to happen only happens, albeit illusory, and you neither make anything happen nor a moment in life or a moment in the mind with illusory thought. Trust in life happens when understanding happens that a pre-thought of a particular thought is absent in the mind. Only a particular thought is present and not a pre-thought of it. Thoughts therefore happen and cannot be controlled to happen or not to happen. The thought that is meant to happen only happens.

 

Question from USA: 2-5-2017

That is funny, I just bought Kaivalya Gita Volume 6 last week and Five Elements Space and Time and did not buy the video….I will look it up and buy it….I KNOW that I cant change what is ‘’meant to be”…I KNOW IT….I know that I know it…..Still———the Manifestation of God as ‘’me’’, ‘’Frank” wants to not like some of it! That is why I describe it as a kind of comedy……That may be the wrong way to describe it, but it keeps coming up as the best word I can find…Thank You

Answer by Dr. Shankar

The comedy is meant to happen to you. When deep understanding of life and the mind with thoughts cements the comedy will not happen.

 

Question from USA: 1-5-2017

Dr. Shankar---

Thank You for your last response, I have been deeply thinking about it---and in thinking about it, where you responded to what I wrote about Maharaj had said about the state ''prior'' to conception----you said it is light and it prevails forever...I very much related that to last year when i underwent 5th Metatarsal surgery...I fractured it running and needed a screw placement..But anyway, going under Anesthesia I was deeply fascinated about NOT being there to experience that....You can compare it to deep sleep but it seems more dramatic because you are actually having something done to ''you'' instead of the easy slipping away in the comfort of ones bed..I understand that is the ONLY state and the ONLY Truth---It was a TIMELESS and THOUGHTLESS infinity that can only be thought of Now being awake....when you ARE it, there are No more words about it.......Also, I have been deeply contemplating the ''meant to be/not meant to be'' topic we discussed. How can i presume to Understand the state prior to consciousness but at the same time still want change of the meant to be???

Even though the current meant to be in my life is not a bad thing or things, there is still the slight dissatisfaction with some of them---and I know that feeling about them is meant to be as well....It seems like a comedy sometimes....if that is the right way to express this? I am not quoting word for word from what you wrote but it was something to the effect of " everything right now is EXACTLY correct, if it is wrong then it makes God wrong, and God cannot be wrong...One must trust."

That is what 99.9 percent of the world is Not prepared to understand...If someone has cancer that means it is EXACTLY CORRECT! That is most difficult for many and requires deep wisdom. I understand this, but nevertheless that other side still remains....

Answer by Dr. Shankar

The state prior to be conscious is light is understood, because every atom of sperm and ova is light. The want to change the meant to be, is that which is meant to be until deep understanding happens that you cannot change what is meant to be.

I wrote that everything right now is exactly what it is meant to be, meaning that it may be either right or wrong, albeit illusory.

If someone has cancer it means that it is meant to be and neither right or wrong. Watch the DVD ‘Non-Duality-Life as it is’ it will help you to understand deeply what is meant to be and the impossibility of want to change.

 

Question from USA: 28-4-2017

Dr. Shankar---

Thank You for your last response....I have been and continue to absorb....It made me think of something Nisargadatta Maharaj said in response to a query--"Before Conception, whatever state exists,THAT is your most natural, perfect state, it ALWAYS prevails..When this beingness goes, that state will still be there, it ever prevails".

I understand that what is meant to be now IS and WILL be....and that is that....All these ''meant to be's, not meant to be's really pertain to this illusion of beingness....they are very strong notions though, but the strength of conviction that they are not true is there as well---and that is Meant to Be Now...the veil shall be rent asunder before the body goes though...-I know this....Thanks

Answer by Dr. Shankar

The state before conception is light and this state prevails for ever. The strong notions of meant to be’s and not meant to be’s are TRUE, but are nevertheless illusory and not real. That they are not true is meant to BE for you now. The veil will be lifted when it is meant to be lifted even when the body is alive. Patience and trust is vital, which will happen if it is meant to happen.

 

Question from USA: 27-4-2017

Many thanks for the quick response.

These are Dr. Shankar's own words from the tapes - Man has simply forgotten that there is no mind in the present, that there is no thought in the present. That's all that man has forgotten. How can a thought forget that there is no mind or thought in the present. I promise this will be my final communication.

Many thanks again.

Answer by Dr. Shankar

Firstly, which tapes do you mention and what is the context that these words refer to? Please mention the topics of the tapes. The sentence “Man has simply forgotten that there is no mind in the present, that there is no thought in the present.” to indicate that in the present moment in life there is no thoughts in the mind. The mind in the present in life is without thoughts. Man has forgotten that the mind in life in the present is without thoughts. Thought cannot forget, because forget is a thought and man has forgotten that there is no thought in the mind in the present in life. Is it clear? If not please inform. Please communicate as much as you want.

 

Question from USA: 26-4-2017

Request to Dr. Shankar ONLY -for clarification. Many thanks.

The illusions of Life

Man wears colored garments to impress others because he thinks he is wearing the colors he likes so much. But the irony is that he has displayed colors he does not like and has impressed others by his dislikes rather than his likes! The paradox is that everyone is doing just the same, displaying their dislikes rather than their likes. Numerous arguments arise out of insisting which color a particular object should be. Illusionary colors become a point of contention.

Only light and sound exists everywhere. The eyes only receive reflected light rays. The form, shape and color of the light rays are interpreted in the mind as a man. The mind only has thoughts in it. Therefore the thought ‘man’ wears colored garments to impress other thoughts (the mind can only have one thought at a time). Because he (the thought) thinks he (the thought) is wearing the colors the thought likes. The thought (he) has displayed colors the thought does not like and has impressed other thoughts in his own mind- by his dislikes.

The paradox is that all the thoughts (everyone) is doing (happening to the thoughts) just the same. When the word ‘man’ is used, it reverts back to man being real by our conditioning. But if the correct revelation is used consistently it will be difficult to revert to man as being real- meaning if the word ‘man as a thought’ and nothing more- not man as man but man as thought. If the word thought preceded every object, vegetation, animal, and man - such as ‘the thought man, the thought cow, the thought apple etc. This new understanding will help to remove the concept of man being real and will make the illusion easier to understand. The reflected light appearing as the thought ‘man’ in my mind. It may seem long, but it is the truth. The reflected light appearing as the thought ‘cow’ in my mind. The reflected light appearing as the thought ‘apple’ in my mind. Etc. If every name bears this qualification, maybe we can then say we are only seeing thoughts and nothing more which I understand to be the message of Dr. Shankar

Answer by Dr. Shankar

The message is: We are only thinking thoughts and not seeing thoughts. Both the thinking and the thoughts happen to us and we do not make either happen. We believe the thoughts are the seen and also to be real, while they are illusory. The belief also happens to us.

 

Question from USA: 25-4-2017

Dr. Shankar----I have a question in regard to ''what is meant to happen will happen---what is meant not to will not happen"....I have worked for almost 13 years in Emergency/Trauma...I grew up in a Funeral Home Family, (owners of)...I have been around death and life and understand both. On page 77 of Kaivalya Gita Volume 6 is written-Man never sees the whole picture right in front of him. But, in life, there is never a discontinuity anywhere.....I never finished Nursing school but have continued to work as a ER Technician but all the while ''ponder'' gong back to school and finally getting my RN degree....I seem not able to go, inside I have a reservation, laziness?

My wife is a successful Nurse, friends are as well.....The discontinuity I feel has stayed with me regarding this....I definitely try to see the whole picture but cant quite catch it...Could this be the will of the Universe? And must it be fully understood? Is this meant to be this way exactly? I debate many times..... Thank You

Answer by Dr. Shankar

Nursing school is not meant to be finished as of now. Working as an ER technician is meant to happen and it is happening. Pondering is meant to happen and it is happening. Not going back to nursing school is meant to happen and it is happening as of now. Laziness is meant to happen and it is happening when it is meant to happen. The mind thinks isolated events and does not understand that there is no discontinuity anywhere. You can never find an actual division between the isolated events of the mind. All this is the big picture of your life as of now. There is no discontinuity anywhere. The discontinuity you feel is meant to happen so that you will understand the big picture of your life. The big picture of your wife and friends is what is happening to them. The big picture of your life is not meant to happen to you as yet just as finishing nursing school is no meant to happen to you as of now. Trying to see the whole picture is meant to happen and it is happening. This is not the will of the universe it is what is meant to happen. Full understanding too will happen when it is meant to happen. This is exactly what it is meant to be as of now to you. Patience and trust in life is vital which will happen too if it is meant to happen.

 

Question from USA: 19-4-2017

Dr. Shankar——

So there is ONLY COSMOS…..And ‘’I” am it…..In the dark room of meditation the illusion of ‘’I”, me, he, she saw itself and then merged back into itself ….That is all it does every second …..The illusion is Reality and reality is the illusion….all the time.

Answer by Dr. Shankar

There is only intelligence. The intelligence appears as the illusory cosmos and the illusory “I”. The illusion appears as the real. The illusoriness of reality is the reality to the human mind.

Dr.Shankar

 

Question from USA: 18-4-2017

Dr. Shankar---I thank you for the many answers to questions I have put before...I have another I have been thinking over---For 4-5 years I would meditate traditionally but in pitch darkness in my closet--no sound as my ears were covered, no light etc etc....Nisargadatta and Ramana Maharshi I was fortunate enough to come across in this life time accompanied me internally all hours--more so even in the Dark Depths of the Illusion I called my mind while in Dark retreat so to speak...There teaching was almost as if I could touch it...Your books have also evolved those teachings for me to a greater understanding...That understanding was that even in the DARK, the Illusion of a Mind was seen as Reflections of Light and Sound....that the very understanding with NO Visual or Auditory impetus available WAS/IS the Intelligence of the Universe itself---unseen, unheard but THERE...Is this correct? Thank You

Answer by Dr. Shankar

What IS: is intelligence of the cosmos itself. The cosmos is a whole harmonious and orderly system that is governed by natural law. The cosmos includes the “universe” which is everything that exists including time and space, matter, and the laws that govern them.

 

Question from New Zealand: 16-4-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar, thank you very much for explaining what contentment is. All these days was of the opinion that contentment is to be developed in life.

Dr Shankar can you please explain how to understand "Temple". Regards
Answer by Dr. Shankar

Man cannot develop anything in life. Everything that exists evolves and developes because of life, including a moment with and what it is meant to be. Man merely claims that he can develop. Growth cannot be developed in life by anyone, growth evolves and developes because of life in the way it is meant to as everyone with and what he is meant to be. Similarly with contentment as well. Where ever you are in life that place is ‘Temple’, because every place is manifested by God. A particular place is called a temple, so that man may understand that any place is also a temple, because God is everywhere. When this understanding happens, you will have the same reverence, love and gratitude to God that you have in a temple, also in any place that you are in life.

 

Question from New Zealand: 14-4-2017

Dear Regina, can you please ask Dr. Shankar how to understand the word "Contentment" albeit illusory. Please convey my regards to Dr. Shankar.
Answer by Dr. Shankar

You are contented every moment of your temporary life-time, when trust happens to you that life will happen as it is meant to happen to you and to others, and that you do not make life happen the way it happens to you or to others. Illusory contentment means it is temporary, meaning it lasts until your life-time and not eternal.

Dr. Shankar

 

Question from Netherlands: 13-4-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar,

If life gives a moment to itself to be itself, would not life need a moment to give a moment to itself to be itself? Is there a moment at all?
Answer by Dr. Shankar

Life and moment are synonyms. Life is moment and moment is life. Therefore life does not give a moment to itself. If moment was not present life would not be present as well. That you ask a question is proof that life is present and so too the moment is present.

 

Question from USA: 12-4-2017

Dr. Shankar---

In Sri Guru Ramana Prasadam, the Great disciple of Ramana Maharshi Sri Muruganar is writing about the ''nature'' of the guru---He wrote--"He is the Ancient One who prospers in his powerful natural state of MAUNA, silence---untroubled by questions of ''where'' and ''when"....It made me think of one of your talks when you were discussing how humans have sophisticated to the point where we ALWAYS are saying ''where'' and ''when"...But as you say, it is not a matter of getting to that point of not being troubled---it is a matter of IF it is meant to happen it will, and IF it is not meant to happen right now it wont...No matter way---THAT is still THAT.....I understand this now more fully.... Thank You.

Answer by Dr. Shankar

Happy for you.

Dr. Shankar

 

Question from Netherlands: 8-4-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar,

But illusory thought is at quantum level light, right? If so, can we say that the singular intermittent flow of thoughts is not only in the singular constant flow of light but is also a illusory reflection of the singular constant flow of light? Meaning, “intermittent” is an illusory reflection of “constant” and the “gaps” between thoughts would be light as well? And your explanation regarding “personal” and “impersonal” is applicable to every other duality, isn’t it? For example, in your explanation I could replace “personal” and “impersonal” with “health” and “sickness”, right?

Answer by Dr. Shankar

The gap between thoughts is the constant. Health and sickness are personal to superficial understanding, whereas health and sickness is impersonal to deep understanding. Hence you cannot replace personal and impersonal with health and sickness. Duality is real to superficial understanding, whereas duality is illusory to deep understanding.

 

Question from USA: 7-4-2017

Dr. Shankar---

Thank You for the response to the article " Nature". My wife and I had a very deep long dialogue on that just yesterday...We also talked about world events, and mostly about the events in Aleppo Syria and how that relates to the "intelligence" of nature-- for most that would be hard to put together as relating, but they do as all happenings do....Upon pondering deeper into that relating it to ''light" and ''sound"----there is a inner Knowing if you will, which cannot be truly spoken of, that without the Human eye to take in light---light cannot be either...without the Human ear---sound cannot be either....It to me goes further to a state that you often say CANNOT be spoken of....Ever...beyond ALL our words there is only THAT...ALONE.....Is this correct? Thank You

Answer by Dr. Shankar

Upon deep pondering the intelligence of nature, you and your wife would understand that the nature of intelligence involves the whole and the linear ‘Why and how’ involves the intellect within the mind. The whole does not relate to events, only the linear relates to events. There are no linear answers to ‘why’ or ‘how’ knowledge and wisdom happen, but they nevertheless do happen. It is wise to accept life as it happens, because ‘why’ and ‘how’ everything happens cannot be answered by the intellect within the mind. The mind, however, believes that it has or is able to find real answers to any 'why' or 'how' and this is the illusion which deceives the mind that events are real. This implies that life is without cause or effect as the enlightened have declared, whereas 'how' and 'why' indicate cause and effect, albeit illusory. Light is present even though the blind cannot see light. Sound is present even though the deaf are unable to hear sound. Beyond all illusory words is ‘THAT’.

 

Question from Netherlands: 6-4-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar,

Thank you for your response on April 3. While reading the paragraph about the big picture in the article “Willpower“ I wondered: if, as you explain, an atom as part of the whole is both negative and positive because both electrons and protons are in a flow in the whole, would not every individual life as part of and included in the singular movement of the entire life be both personal and impersonal because both personal and impersonal are in a flow in the whole which is the singular movement of the entire life?

Answer by Dr. Shankar

Every individual life is light as part of the whole life, which is light. Part of light is whole because the whole is light. Part of light is neither personal nor impersonal, just as the whole light is neither personal nor impersonal. Both personal and impersonal are illusory thoughts of individual life as light and it is part of the individual mind and it is whole, because personal and impersonal are illusory thoughts of individual lives as light in all the individual minds which is the whole. Therefore illusory thoughts are a singular intermittent flow in the singular constant flow of light.

 

Question from USA: 5-4-2017

Hello Dr. Shankar--I was reading your article "Nature".....In it you mentioned that Evolution has come along to a point that the Human Mind has developed to where it now has the ability to think about the why, and the how, and the when etc...Whereas the Intelligence in Nature does some things, as say Blossom a flower, and NOT blossom a flower....That the intelligence in nature is looking out for everything....Why is the understanding of this so RARE among humans in the world? Why so few walking the earth today who ABSOLUTELY do not worry about anything...We have seen a few in history, but the vast majority of the people walking the planet are far from this.....It is easy to read and think over, BUT quite entirely another thing to ''BE".... Thank You

Answer by Dr. Shankar

The word evolution has not been mentioned in the article ‘nature’. The intelligence of nature is mentioned. The mind does not have the ability to make neither evolution nor the intelligence in nature. The article indicates that what is meant to happen will happen in nature and to man and what is not meant to happen will not happen in nature and to man as well. Therefore we cannot enquire ‘why’ is deep understanding of nature RARE among humans in nature. It is RARE because it is meant to be RARE in nature. Few on earth in nature do not worry about anything, because trust in life has happened to them, which was meant to happen. To the vast majority of people walking the planet it is not meant to happen to them as yet and we cannot ask ‘why’ it has not happened to the vast majority. To ’BE’ in nature with trust will happen when it is meant to happen in nature.

 

Question from Netherlands: 3-4-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar,

If I understand scientific information correctly, the charge of the positively charged atomic nucleus and the charge of the negatively charged electron cloud around the nucleus are equal. (I hope I have formulated it correctly.) Therefore every single atom is neutral as a whole. That seems significant. Sounds as if life in its smallest form is a testimony of precision and perfect equilibrium. If this is significant, would you be so kind to explain why?

Answer by Dr. Shankar

That a single atom has no electrical charge and is neutral as a whole is a theoretical knowledge and not wisdom, because an atom is whole only in relation with every other atom in the whole which is wisdom. A whole is both positive and negative in a flow and this is wisdom. Therefore every atom as a part of the whole is both negative and positive, because both electrons and protons are in a flow in the whole. When an atom is either positive or negative in the flow can never be determined with any accuracy. This is a testimony of precision and perfect equilibrium of life.

 

Question from Netherlands: 30-3-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar, In your article ‘Has and Got’ you state: “You can neither choose in the moment nor could you have willpower in the moment, because you cannot choose to make a moment; you need the moment for the choice to be present. Therefore, a moment happens without choice or willpower.”

I grappled with this statement. Thoughts would appear in my mind like ‘I understand that I cannot choose to make a moment, but why does that mean that I cannot choose in the moment?’ ‘Just because I am unable to choose to make a moment, does not necessarily mean that I am unable to choose in a moment.’ ‘Why can’t I make a choice in a moment which life makes for me?’ ‘I mean, I am alive in life even though I cannot choose to make life.’ Which was to my surprise followed by the thought: ‘Oh, I cannot choose to be alive either.’ To me that was an eye-opener which gave meaning to your above mentioned statement. I cannot choose in life, because I can neither choose to make life, nor can I choose to be alive in life. Similarly, I cannot choose in the moment, because I can neither choose to make a moment, nor can I choose to be alive in the moment. If I can neither make a moment, nor choose to be alive in the moment, it must mean that ‘my’ choices in the moment happen to me spontaneously, uncontrollably and unpredictably. Would you please be so kind to comment?

Answer by Dr. Shankar

If you can neither make a moment nor choose to be alive in the moment it means that your choices in the moment happen to you and you make neither the choice nor the moment. Similarly, you do not have will-power to either choose or to make anything in the moment. Everything happens in the moment, albeit illusory.

 

Question from USA: 29-3-2017

Dr. Shankar-- I have been deeply pondering over the last answers you gave to me....It may sound crazy to the rest of the world, but it is my understanding then that if all ''illusionary" events are happening exactly the way they are meant to happen, then all the activities of the "illusionary" world and universe are just rightly so?

Is that the right way to put it? Even if most are seeing the events in the world as "BAD" suck as war, death, etc etc....

It is just exactly so...If there is only 1 source, then this source or God or whatever it is just "Does" but also "Does Not".....all at the same illusionary moment that happens always NOW.... Is this correct understanding? Going in the direction of correct understanding? Thank You

Answer by Dr. Shankar

The correct way to put it is: all the illusory activities in the illusory world and universe are just what it is meant to be.

The correct understanding is: The source does not do anything, so the question of ‘does’ and ‘does not’ is not applicable to the source. The ‘does’ that happens always NOW is an illusion of a singular movement of the source. The big picture is: the entire manifested life is a singular movement and every personal life is included in this singular movement of entire life. This implies that neither is every personal life separate from other lives nor is any action in personal life separate from another action nor is it actual.

Dr. Shankar

 

Reply from USA for the answer; 28-3-2017

Thank you sir.

Answer by Dr. Shankar.

You are always welcome. I am your friend.

 

Question from USA: 27-3-2017

Dr.Shankar Can we then say this body that I am temporarily called is EXACTLY where it is supposed to be in this illusory manifestation we call "reality", doing exactly whatever it is supposed to be doing at this exact illusory time and illusory place? Thank You

Answer By Dr. Shankar,

What you write is correct until the word “reality”. The sentence following it should be: doing exactly whatever it is supposed to be doing, albeit illusory, at this exact illusory numerical time and illusory place. Regards

 

Question from USA: 26-3-2017

Dr. Shankar--- Thank You.....I will think about what you have written for a few days...What is odd is that the terms what is ''meant" to happen will happen I know is true....I say it myself, BUT there is an underlying aspect of me that gets, ''annoyed" at even that! Not that you say it, but it is just a true saying----and my ego does not want to wait for things, it wants it now without the aspect of ''meant to" or not....it is quite a battler, this ego....a fake entity, but still tenacious...the greatest fighter in history....does not throw in the towel that easily!

Answer by Dr.Shankar

If annoyance happens for the truth that you say, it means that you have neither understood deeply the truth in what you say nor has the deep understanding cemented in you. You will not be annoyed if the truth is understood deeply and is cemented. The ego does not understand that it is only in the now anything happens if it is meant to happen. This again indicates that you have not deeply understood what ‘meant’ means.

 

Question from USA: 25-3-2017

Dr. Shankar-- After my last entry I read Essence and Patience----after all my years of enquiry, study, Advaita, Nisargadatta Maharaj, Ramana Maharshi-----I STILL have no patience....It is as if the Universe made this illusionary person with NO PATIENCE...Hence the saying, '' I am what I am".......when I am told to have more patience, my inner core fights.....it is a good idea to have patience, but I don't think it is my nature....Even being a student of non-duality all this time....Maybe I am the inpatient aspect of the ALL.... Thank You

Answer by Dr. Shankar

In essence and patience I wrote: “Man becomes patient not by choice, effort or practice. He becomes patient when he understands that life will happen in only one way, including the corresponding thought and feeling, and not in the way his mind expects life to happen.” I do not tell anyone to have neither patience nor more patience. You have no patience implies that patience has not happened to you as yet. You are what you are meant to be in every moment and that is you are not patient in the moment and that is your present nature. Your inner core does not fight; it is only your ego that fights, because the ego does not wish to be told to have more patience. The ego also does not know that it cannot bring in patience. You are yet to be patient in every moment of life and patience in every moment of life will happen to you if it is meant to happen. Understand that you cannot be a student of non-duality, because a student implies the presence of a teacher, a teacher and a student is duality and not non-duality. You are a temporary impatient aspect of consciousness for the moment and not of ALL. All is the absolute and the absolute has no attributes such as impatience.

 

Question from USA: 24-3-2017

Dr. Shankar--- You wrote that the Source is an unreal void...Thoughts are Present and yet Not Present...There is the knowing of this, BUT say you are not getting enough hours at your job---you become annoyed...There is annoyance and not annoyance....I know there is no ''HOW", but where comes the stabilization in that particular kind of scenario? One can contemplate all day, meditate, have a Understanding, a deep knowing, BUT the anxiety and annoyance of everyday life still makes its way in....It is quite frustrating....Can that mean I have Understanding AND No understanding at the same time? When does the experimental knowing of that stabilize?

Answer by Dr. Shankar

I also wrote “The source is an unreal void, meaning an unphysical void, which reflects an unreal, future and unreal things, meaning illusory things. If by unreal void you mean consciousness then you are correct, because consciousness by itself is empty meaning void” Please write the complete context or sentence and not parts of either. Part of a sentence or context does not bring in clarity.

Thoughts are present and yet not present, meaning only sound is present that appears as thoughts that are present.

Understand that annoyance happens to you and you do not make annoyance happen to you, because no one wants annoyance or wishes for it. Therefore, understand you get annoyed and that is what is meant to happen to you at that particular moment. The understanding too may or may not happen to you. The annoyance nevertheless is there and yet not present, because it is illusory just as thoughts are illusory. Illusory also means it is temporary and not permanent. You write” There is annoyance and not annoyance....” This is incorrect because annoyance, albeit illusory is present and it is illusory annoyance. The correct sentence would be there is annoyance and yet it is not.

The stabilization comes when deep understanding happens to you that the scenario (re: annoyance) though present, it is illusory and not real.

Deep understanding that neither contemplation nor meditation can stop them coming in, and deep understanding that they will come if they are meant to come, and deep understanding that they are illusory and not real, frustration will not come. Frustration cones because you believe it is real.

Real means that it is permanent and will not change. Therefore if frustration were real you will only be frustrated every moment of life. But everything in life changes and is not permanent. This indicates that annoyance is illusory and not real.

It means you only have superficial understanding and no deep understanding as yet. When you deeply understand you will know that when you have understanding to have no understanding at the same time is impossible. Deep understanding of the known stabilizes when it is meant to stabilize.

 

Question from New Zealand: 22-3-2017

How to understand Sadhana?

Answer by Dr. Shankar

Sadhana means disciplined and dedicated practice or learning, especially in spirituality or religion. Sadhana may or may not happen. Why and how, albeit illusory, sadhana does happen cannot be really determined, because life is a singular flow of energy. An illusion at quantum level is light and displays illusory reality, for example sadhana, on perception.

 

Question from USA: 21-3-2017

Dr. Shankar--- You asked me what the ''source" of non-sensical thinking is? I enquire and find nothing that could be mind...I enquire again and still find, after all the ideas, notions, conditionings, opinions are looked at that they are false..I see that there is not a thing there. But, there still must have been a clinging, a conditioning , a false ego that wants to have this un-real contentment.. But as to give it a solidity, a shape, a color---that cannot be done. I have a saying I use quite often--I always say I expect others to view the world as I do, but I know they do not do this most of the time...I hung on to that for a long time but released that outlook and saw the falsity of that....I see now that the ''source'' is an unreal void striving for unreal future and unreal ''things''....the realization of that seems more important that identifying what it is.....

Answer Dr. Shankar

If you see, meaning you understand that there is not a thing there which could be mind, it implies that the mind is an imagination of the human intellect. The mind is an imagination that does not physically exist, and so too are thoughts an imagination of the human intellect, which does not physically exist. But thoughts nevertheless exist and their existence is therefore illusory and not physically present, meaning thoughts are present and yet not present. Similarly, the mind is illusory, meaning it is present and yet not present. That which is physically present is illusory as well, because illusion at the quantum level is light and displays properties of physical reality on perception in the illusory mind.

A false ego wants real contentment but does not understand that if it were false the contentment would be false as well, and so too solidity, shape, and colour. Solidity, shape and colour are all illusions of light. Light cannot be done by the ego.

Views of the world that anyone has, may or may not be similar with the views that others have. If the views are similar it is well and good, and if the views are not similar, it is well and good as well, because the views of everyone has evolved in them and they do not make the views in their mind, because man can neither make the illusory mind nor an illusory view.

Please understand that you can neither hold onto nor release the thought in the mind, which is not present but yet present, because both the thought and the mind happen before you can make them happen. Understand that the thought in the mind clung to you as long as it was meant to and similarly the thought released itself when it was meant to release, but the ego believes that it clung onto and released the thought. Understanding of the falsity of expecting others to view the world as you do, happened to you and you did not make that understanding happen to you, because understanding is an inherent characteristic of intellect and you do not control intellect.

The source is an unreal void, meaning an unphysical void, which reflects an unreal, future and unreal things, meaning illusory things. If by unreal void you mean consciousness then you are correct, because consciousness by itself is empty meaning void. Consciousness is light and void as well, because light is void meaning empty. Light reflects illusory (unreal) future and “things” as well. The realization that consciousness reflects an illusory world, man and mind, is more important than identifying what consciousness meaning ‘it’ is, because ‘it’ meaning consciousness cannot be identified.

 

Question from USA: 20-3-2017

Dr. Shankar--- Was deeply pondering the Chapter "LABELS", in Kaivalya Gita Volume 2....You were discussing labels, pigeonholes, and discontentment. On pg. 18 you wrote, " What does man mean by a nice job?"----I read and simply laughed hysterically! After many years of ''discontentment"----and by NO MEANS did I have any reason for discontentment, (new home, good Emergency Job etc. etc...), there was an underlying sense of this discontentment----No meditation solved it, I could not find the source...I always told my wife lets move out West to Arizona for the mountains, to California for the Scenery, etc.etc....But after pondering "LABELS", I have found that source of nonsensical thinking......I have found it---Thank You

Answer by Dr. Shankar

Happy for you that you have found the source of nonsensical thinking, may I ask you what the source of nonsensical thinking is, please? It is wise to accept your wife, everyone and everything as they are in every moment of daily life, and not expect them to be what you expect they should be. You will not be discontented in daily life.

 

Question from USA: 19-3-2017

Dr.Shankar-- I see what you mean now......ahha.....I understand... Thank You

Answer by Dr. Shankar

Happy that deep understanding of a spiritual belief is happening to you now.

Dr. Shankar

 

Question from USA: 18-3-2017

Dr. Shankar-- The Way it is Meant to Go-------Ramana Maharshi said the same over and over....The Gita said it thousands of years ago......IT doing what IT wishes to do...and there is NO-ONE doing anything....Yes, that full understanding has matured greatly in this fictitious Me.... Regards

Answer by Dr. Shankar

Neither is NO-ONE doing or wishing nor is IT doing what IT wishes to do. IT merely is. Doing and wishing by anyone is an optical and auditory illusion of consciousness as light and sound, including everyone and everything. The full understanding that has matured greatly in fictitious you, is a spiritual belief, but it is not the truth. Regards

 

Question from USA: 17-3-2017

Dr. Shankar---Thank You for you answers and for taking the time....The Illusion of “me” is at that ledge of not wanting to now anymore.....I understand totally.....May your life go well!!!

Answer by Dr. Shankar

Thank you for writing your questions, which happened to you, just as writing the answers to your questions happened to me. Not wanting to question is also happening to you now. This is total understanding. Similarly, my life will go the way it is meant to go.

 

Question from USA: 14-3-2017

Dr. Shanker---Thank You. I absolutely DO understand...Deep down I fully Realize...When I enquire into what I was Before I was born I fully assimilate that this "I Am" was not....BUT----you have to at least give me some lee-way here...The auditory illusions of light and sound that consciousness has projected as " Frank ", or ''others'' or ''animals" or any kind of life animate or inanimate through the whole of illusionary evolution for this temporary physical illusionary manifestation that we can call life on earth, life in the Universe, life in the Multi-Verses etc etc, still wants to know why the Pure Light of the Absolute which CANNOT be explained, pondered, thought about--- It simply wants to know , as the illusionary aspect of itself, aspect of itself ( because how can it be other than itself in some way if it is ALL there is) WHY it operates the way it does? So I am asking you as GOD to GOD why do I do the things that I do the way I do them? So as Absolute light, absolute illusionary Noumenon, I KNOW I CANNOT KNOW MYSELF---but HERE, in Illusionary manifestation, it still wants to KNOW here in this Illusion too! If that makes no sense I apologize, but I understand what I am writing even if I cannot convey it properly....Thank You.

Answer by Dr. Shankar

If you understand absolutely you are in freedom and there is no question of giving some or any leeway.

The illusory ‘I’ has evolved to know: that is its function. When the illusory ‘I’ evolves further it understands absolutely the known and lives in freedom.

As an illusory reflection of light and sound, meaning God, to another illusory reflection labelled as you: you do not do anything the way you do. Doing and the way of doing is an optical and auditory illusion of light and sound in the form of thoughts of a singular moving body called you.

You can understand, if understanding happens that you are an illusory reflection of consciousness. Understand that you are neither as absolute light nor as absolute illusory Noumenon. You are as a relative auditory and optical illusory phenomenon of consciousness.

The illusory you always will want to know until deep understanding of the mind happens, when you will no longer want to know. You begin to live with whatever you may know. If understanding is deep you will convey whatever you know properly.

 

Question from USA: 13-3-2017

Dr. Shankar---Thank You...I DO Understand what you are saying....Words again-- Noumenon and Phenomenon, Un-Manifest/Manifest....

What this phenomena called in this lifetime as "Frank" does know is that the Silent Absolute in its infinite potentiality expresses itself as a "Frank"

who likes to use words and question, who goes to deep dreamless sleep and then disappears back to potentiality, wakes up again to see a Rose, to see Life , and Death and Smiles and Cries, an Insect, a Sunrise, looks at the Universe through a telescope, saves a life in the Emergency Room in my job etc etc etc....What this phenomena called Frank knows is that it does not really concern itself with book knowledge anymore, although it still loves books...It is all most laughable!

The deep silence is the Truth, but there is also Noise in this manifestation and that is LIFE doing what it wishes....

And I am not concerned anymore, nor have I been for a while!.....Laughable.....Thank You.

Answer by Dr. Shankar

Words are illusions of phenomenon sound. Sound is an illusion of phenomenon light. Noumenon is the absolute and light and sound are phenomenon of consciousness. Un-manifest is consciousness or light and sound and manifest is the illusory world, man and mind. I am sure you follow.

You who do know is an illusory phenomenon of light and sound and so too what you know is an illusory phenomenon of light and sound. What you do not understand as yet to know is: The silent absolute reflects consciousness and its infinite potentiality to express itself as an illusory phenomenon of light and sound called you.

Book knowledge is to be concerned about by phenomenon of light and sound called you, for phenomenon you to be able to save a life in Emergency Room etc, etc, etc.

Deep silence is the truth IN this manifestation, and the truth in manifestation is consciousness. Noise in this manifestation is sound, which is an illusion of deep silence, consciousness or light.

Be concerned about the illusory phenomena of life, because it helps to save a life, and talk to Shankar. Life is a precious mystery of light and sound.

 

Question from USA: 12-3-2017

Dr. Shankar- Thank You for the Second response...So we can both agree that the ''eternal state'' prevails in spite of ALL happenings? It is really not a ''state'' but as I said before I have to use my language to communicate this as best I can...I suspect the greatest communication we can have is that SILENCE we are talking about? This silence has been with me always but I never realized it fully until 9 years ago...It then took on a very deep significance and I find it NEVER comes or goes from me, not in waking, not in sleep---it just IS always present, always there, in work, in good, in bad---and it is just the way it is and will always be so---I know that is what I am-----but as I said it is extremely difficult to convey to others----so I usually do not even try to---Is this an accurate description? Thank You.

Answer by Dr. Shankar

All happenings prevail as illusory reflection of consciousness. Consciousness is a reflection of the eternal state, which can neither be known to be described nor experienced. Language and communication in the best way too are an illusory expression of consciousness. The smart phone and the computer are proof that language and communication are illusory.

Silence is not talked about but only understood. Silence is consciousness which reflects the illusory talking about anything including silence, which cannot be talked about.

Silence, meaning consciousness can never be found especially in deep sleep. Silence is understood to be always present in waking or sleeping states and reflects illusory work, and illusory duality such as good, bad, in waking and sleeping states.

It is not difficult to convey silence, it is impossible to convey silence. Silence cannot be conveyed, because silence is consciousness and consciousness is everywhere. Silence cannot be explained either, because any explanation contains words, and words are sounds and not silence. This implies that a letter or a word in an explanation is an auditory illusion of sound. Therefore anything seen and explained is an optical illusion of light and auditory illusion of sound respectively. The smart phone and the computer are proof that daily life is an optical and auditory illusion. Is this understood by you? If not please inform and will explain further.

 

Question from USA: 11-3-2017

Dr. Shankar

Thank you for your response-You said the Absolute cannot be known or experienced and I understand that--You wrote in Kaivalya Gita Volume 2 page 28-29 that the ''world'' gets manifested because of the known, which is thinking. Hence the world is nothing but a manifestation of thoughts...and on pg 29 you said deep sleep is timeless and thoughtless which is man's true state...( To me, it has to manifest from ''something"--although I know that ''something'' is not knowable from an Ultimate perspective) Language here is the problem. But, for speaking and communicating purposes in our bodies on a Relative level can we say we have had a taste of the Absolute here in relative terms?( but I fully understand the implications of '' we can never know or experience it" as per what you said)...Because how can we possibly experience deep dreamless sleep? That is impossible and I know this here and now while awake and I am fully at peace with that...That is the silence I am talking about...Is this view remotely close to correct? Thank You Sir, Frank F.

Answer by Dr. Shankar

The manifested world is in the form of thoughts; Kaivalya Gita 2 indicates just that in page 28-29. Page 29 states that silence is man’s true state to indicate that silence is consciousness. Deep sleep state is a manifestation of consciousness. We can say we have a taste of consciousness here, and the taste is the relative illusory terms of this and that. The deep dreamless sleep is silence, just as any feeling lived and not thought of as this and that is silence. You are welcome to question deeper.

 

Question from USA: 10-3-2017

Dr. Shankar- Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj of Mumbai spoke of the ''ABSOLUTE"....To me the Absolute simply signifies what Maharaj was before he was born, what I was Before I was born---and not a thing we say about it now really has any meaning----words for it are only metaphors, only superficial language ---we try to speak of something that always was before there was any language....So to me god or whatever we wish to call it is ultimately a great deep silence but not of the ears....This is my feeling...What are your views on Maharaj and the Absolute-----Thank You

Answer by Dr. Shankar

You were not the ABSOLUTE before you were born. You were an illusory manifestation of Absolute as consciousness before you were born. You are an illusory manifestation of consciousness after you are born. The absolute can neither be known nor experienced. Words and metaphors only point to the absolute and do not describe about it. Deep silence is, God, Light, or Consciousness. A feeling is either lived or thought of as this and that. A feeling lived and not thought of as this and that is silence. I have no views on Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj and the Absolute.

 

Question from Netherlands: 26-2-2017

Dear Dr Shankar,

In the book Evolution of Mind you explain the process whereby we recognize, for example, written words when light-waves from the words which have entered our eyes transform as sound-waves and match the sound-waves of the words which are already present in our minds. I want to be sure about what you mean by the following. In the article The Seen, when you say “only seeing”, do you mean only visual recognition of form, shape and colour? And when you say “the seen is identified by a thought”, do you mean that form, shape and colour is mentally recognized as a label?

Answer by Dr. Shankar

Light-waves from the words enter the pupil and remain as light-waves and are not transformed as sound-waves, because the optic nerve conveys light-waves and not sound-waves. Light-waves match each other in memory.

Only seeing implies pure seeing but not this and that. Identified by a thought implies that form, shape, colour and name are thoughts and a thought is a label recognized in memory.

 

Question from Netherlands: 20-2-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar,

In the article ‘The Known’, to what are you referring to with the word ‘knowing’?

Answer by Dr. Shankar

Knowing is an inherent characteristic function of intellect by which humans come to know knowledge. The known therefore is due to knowing. For example you know computer because of the function of knowing in intellect. If the function of knowing were not present in the intellect, humans would not know knowledge. Knowing per se is neither this nor that; it is an inherent characteristic function of intellect to know.

 

Question from Netherlands: 19-2-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar,

Referring to your response from 18 february, when man lacks awareness of the fact that knowledge of the moment in the mind in the form of thoughts is illusory, it means that intellect has evolved superficial understanding in him or her rather than deep understanding? And the evolvement of any degree of understanding in a human being is irrespective of the amount of knowledge that has happened to him or her?

I mean, he or she may be very knowledgeable, yet be unaware of the illusory nature of knowledge in the form of thoughts? And when little knowledge has happened to someone, it is not a hindrance for deep understanding and awareness to happen to him or her?

Answer by Dr. Shankar

Knowledge depends upon the degree of understanding that has evolved in him or her. This implies that any degree of understanding reflects the knowledge that he or she has. Therefore, knowledge depends upon the understanding that has evolved to him or her, which indicates that knowledge is depended upon understanding whereas understanding is not depended upon knowledge.

Deep understanding and its awareness to him or her is independent and not dependent on anything, least of all to the quantity of knowledge.

 

Question from Netherlands: 18-2-2017

Dear Dr Shankar,

A question that keeps my mind busy is: what is the relationship between intellect and awareness? Does awareness evolves intellect (and thereby understanding)?

Answer by Dr. Shankar

The relationship between intellect and awareness is: intellect enables humans to be aware of knowledge and the moment. Intellect evolves deep understanding and thereby awareness of the fact that knowledge of the moment in the mind in the form of thoughts is illusory. Also, intellect evolves deep understanding and awareness of the fact that illusory numerical time and illusory thoughts are absent in any moment of life.

 

Question from Netherlands: 17-2-2017

If understood well Dr. Shankar’s oeuvre states life to be light, and as such to be a play of light and sound. But, how then is one to understand the use of the word ‘light’ twice, in particular since sound, again if understood well, also is light – how come twice the use of the word 'light', in this context!?

Answer by Dr. Shankar

It is deep understanding of light that reveals sound to be an illusion of light to indicate that light is transformed as sound heard by the human ear.

 

Reply from Germany: 15-2-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar,

Marcus gave me some good support and I currently read again your book "Evolution of Mind" and I am impressed again....have read it years ago and was impressed - than forgot all again and fall back into braining - and now come back in tasting the truth you shared...your DVD "Self Inquiry" I found again is great as well.

Answer by Dr. Shankar

Happy for you that braining to wisdom is happening now to you. Wisdom understands and accepts life as it flows and neither choses nor judges, whereas so far only braining of knowledge was happening to you and knowledge judges and chooses.

 

Question from Germany: 14-2-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar,

thank you that you are so patient with me - meanwhile I stay in contact with Marcus as well...My main problem as I recognize it for myself with your uttering is that the responses seem to be very stereotype and with less compassion to the asking content while I assume a deep compassion on your side anyway.

May be the stereotype responses are meant to feed the stereotype mind...

Regarding order-disorder I understand that you grasp them either to be not absolute because they change into each other permanently. So they are part of a reflection of one source you call light.

You tell thoughts are in mind and mind is not in life: I do not grasp clearly the relation ship between the source (life) and the reflection (mind).

But the reflection seems to be under some laws and seems to develop to some higher state. In your book Evolution of Mind it is mentioned that evolution points to higher degrees whereas we lately agreed that there could be devolution as well?

regarding violence of human parts against each other: you stated that violence occurs even in an orderly society whereas I would argument the other way around: if violence shows up in society it is a sign of existing disorder and could be intentionally be changed to order by psychological work on the parts of society by itself - provided the parts see the need itself what clearly is the main problem that they do not.

A colleague of me, a mother, lately lost her 20 years old oldest son studying medicine who commits suicide because in the 3rd semester failed some examination. Should something like that not be avoidable if society takes a better direction as to focus on achievement? regarding causality I agree a first cause could not be given. If causality is only part of a reflection of life and not of life itself and the reflection like its source is eternal as well my mind has some problems of cource claiming causality further on to be real and still don't knowing the first cause...

Answer by Dr. Shankar

Yes I do have deep compassion not only for you but for everyone. Stereotype wise answers are with deep insight into stereotype knowledge.

Not only do order and disorder change or may not change, they are nevertheless illusory, including their separation, and are what they are and cannot be other than what they are. Man does not bring about order or disorder; though to the stereotype superficial knowledge man is responsible for order or disorder and can change them too. Order and disorder nevertheless is an illusory manifestation of light and as light is continuous there is no separation in light. Therefore only different intensities in light display illusory order and disorder including illusory separation between order and disorder.

The relationship between life and mind is: Life and mind are together. Thoughts in the mind however are a delay in life. Life is ahead of the thoughts in the mind. Is it clear? Because thoughts in the mind know what has happened in life with certainty only after it happens and never before it happens, meaning the exact moment of happening.

Evolution is present because of devolution, to mean what devolves evolves and what evolves devolves as well. If they do not, life would be static without progression.

Violence in orderly or disorderly society is known only after they happen. If violence could be intentionally changed to order they could be prevented intentionally as well. But what has happened cannot be changed, only thoughts to change it happens and this gives a deception that the violence that happens in disorderly societies is a sign of existing disorder that can be changed to order, and that parts of the society do not see the disorder. The problem is society does not understand the mind deeply.

I am sorry for your colleague. Society surely focuses on achievement and safety. But both achievement and failure do happen, including their consequences. Life is dual in the mind with superficial understanding. The opposites in dualities are needed to convey meaning to achievement and failure. Deep understanding of the mind reveals that what is meant to happen will happen is albeit illusory and no reason can be attributed to whatever that happens.

Neither can the first cause be given nor the first effect. If the first cause or effect cannot be known, how could it be possible to determine what is the cause and what is the effect? It is impossible. This is why the wise have pointed that there is no cause or effect in life. Life is what it is and whatever the mind says about what it is as thoughts, it is albeit illusory.

 

Question from Germany: 13-2-2017

Dear Dr.Shankar,

The example of the boys and the schoolmaster was assumed to be a closed system called school class which follows some purpose. Because of that the systems shows intentional relationships between the parts which constitute it and which have different levels as well.The system aims "teaching" and therefore puts this different levels together intentional. In this regard the parts of the system are clearly distinct and follow different functions to accomplish a greater task.

The whole system suffers disorder when the schoolmaster is absent. Why does it suffer and is not happy to see the boys doing their own thing? Because the system "school class" strives for some order in the lower level to be achieved with the help of the higher level. So the whole Distribution of the same energy/light in the system with the teacher present is focussed or concentrated on some aim of the system as a whole. Without that teacher being present this aim gets lost because the focused energy of the boys is released. So it needs some effort - done by the boys and controlled by the schoolmaster - to focus energy on some aim of the system for which it is meant to exist for.

Same with humanity as part of life which can be assumed to be a system as well. If you instead grasp life as some aimless "process" and not as a purposeful system this manifests exactly what the example points to: you have to consider that you yourself are a part of a released lower level as well not being aware of the higher level aims.

There are and have been teachers in humanity as well knowing the aim of the system life very well. They may differ between avoidable, necessary and not avoidable suffering: getting a victim of an earthquake may be not avoidable, but getting a victim of some violence by some other human parts may be avoidable if the system is not in disorder. There are clearly sufferings in humanity that could be avoided.

To deepen the examples and bring the focus in the direction of causality, which is denied by you too, let us assume some idea "house".

An Idea is a thought and as such claimed by you to be an illusion as well. But still please be patient and follow the following:

If some human in history once got the idea to make a "house" this was a spontaneous, unpredictable event in his brain - but my be not for the higher level parts of the system to which he and his brain is a part of. Now he started in time and space to take bricks and put them together until the house manifests in the observation of his five senses and equals his idea. We have the terms "idea" - "house" - "bricks". "Bricks" itself could be described in that manner too and so forth. So causality does not need time but some intention.

The "Idea" is assumed to be invisible by our senses which I agree are building some illusionary reality within time and space.

But her the invisible - the idea - is the cause of the illusionary visible. For the materialist the bricks are the cause, means the things that constitutes the whole and nothing else.

Ideas - thoughts are not in time and space, why? Because one thought can not be left or right, above or under another thought. So the possibility of space as a residence for thought is discarded - remains time.

Time as interpreted by Einstein is nothing other than an additional space dimension - so time as a residence for thought is discarded as well.

No we come to the famous "moments" and the adjured flow of moments that should manifest time which could be measured scientifically until some degree. This argumentation of some order of moments that manifests time is obsolete as well because synchronism of time is relative as well. Because of that to declare instead one single eternal moment is obsolete as well. What remains? Thoughts beyond time and space.

There is a greater evidence for thoughts/ideas to be the source of all than anything else. Anything else could be trusted as illusion - I agree.

Answer by Dr.Shankar

To knowledge it appears that parts of a system are clearly distinct from each other and follow different functions to accomplish a task great or big. But to wisdom it is clear that every speck of a system is not distinct from any other part of the system or from other systems as well, because every speck of a system or systems is energy and in energy there is no distinct separation. Energy is continuous with varied intensities in them that project different illusory systems and their parts.

Understand that any disorder is part of order and vice versa. And they are in order when it is meant to be and vice versa. If disorder were real there would only be disorder and not order and vice versa. Is it clear?

Purpose and aim, albeit illusory, are included in the singular flow of life, but as thoughts in the mind but the mind with its thoughts is not life.

There will be teacher as well as few wise in humanity, teachers understand that the aim of life is what the mind says, but do not understand that what will happen only happens, while the wise know that life is without aim or purpose and life will flow the way it is meant to flow. Even if the system is IN order there is victim of violence, because violence happens even in orderly society.

I have not denied causality. I have pointed that causality is illusory because it is impossible to find the first. Is it clear?

Understand that intention too has evolved and too thoughts which are ideas of house, bricks etc. man has not made them because he cannot control evolution. is it clear?

Every thought and idea is invisible.

Again it is impossible to determine the first cause or the first effect.

For anything to exist time is needed, and without time and space nothing can exist. Therefore thought exists in illusory time and space.

To Einstein time and space are inseparable.

Understand that time is not measured in life but only defined as thoughts in the mind. Moments do not manifest time, a moment is time but not numerical time with numerical duration. Numerical time is relative and not eternity.

The question is what is the source of thoughts/ideas. Understand that thoughts are illusions of subtle sound, because a spoken thought is an illusion of sound. I agree that everything that is known exists as thoughts.

 

Question from Germany: 12-2-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar,

...you are just waiting patiently until it is meant to happen within the process of life that the illusory reflection of light named Dr. Vijai Shankar will vanish?

..meanwhile - if it is meant to happen as well - you feel illusory compassion about other illusory reflections of light experiencing pain, violence and all illusory events human reflections of light really would not prefer to experience at all?

.. and in addition meanwhile - but only if it is meant to happen - you find illusory consolation in the illusion that in the reflection of life pain will change to joy and vice versa if it is meant to happen, because pain only is minimum of joy?

...and last but not least: this all is called the wisdom and understanding of unconditional and impersonal love - cumulating in absolute understanding?

I apologize in advance if it is meant to happen that you feel offended by the lines which to write happens to me spontaneous, unpredictable and uncontrollable in that one and only single Moment in the flow of life.

Answer by Dr. Shankar

The illusory reflection of light named Dr.Vijai Shankar or anyone does not vanish. The illusory reflection either transforms as another or remains as light which is intelligence.

To prefer or not to prefer experiences including the experiences also happen if they are meant to happen. Surely, I do feel compassion, albeit illusory, to those who experience an illusory experience of pain and violence. Daily life has a variety of experiences and they are not up to choice, they happen as they are meant to happen, albeit illusory.

Yes, change and consolation will happen if it is meant to happen, and I too am not free of illusory pain and discomfort either.

Absolute understanding culminates to reveal wisdom and unconditional love. Wisdom and unconditional love is always impersonal. Let me assure you that I am not offended by anything that you or anyone who writes. Therefore, there is no need for an apology. You are always welcome.

 

Question from Germany: 11-2-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar

I put some lines in here of Dr. Nicoll's book "Living Time" for you to get a taste. It relates to levels of consciousness what you have denied to exist at all - but please take a short time: from Nicoll "Living Time" chapter QUALITY OF CONSCIOUSNESS.

"What evidence is there, from the psychological side, about levels of consciousness in man? What does neurological teaching say?

In the teaching about the nervous system, Hughlings Jackson, the forerunner of English neurology, conceived it as an integrated system of nervous levels, in which the higher holds the lower in check. We must understand the nervous system in not one thing, of one composition, uniformity. It is a structure of different groupings of nerve-cells, fitted together and linked up on the principle of scale, and apparently presided over by the cortex of the brain, which itself shows different strata or levels of nerve-cells.

Jackson taught that if the action of the higher level in the nervous system is weakened the activity of a lower level is released. A lower function takes the place of a higher function. The main point he emphasised was that we could never understand the action of the nervous system, psychological considered, unless we took into review this factor of release, because many symptoms of disordered nervous functions consist in phenomena of release. It is necessary to understand clearly what that meant. Imagine a schoolmaster in charge of a class of boys, and suppose that the schoolmaster represents a higher level, the boys a lower, and that the whole class constitutes an "integrated system" which works in a certain way. If the schoolmaster goes to sleep, the lower level is "released" - that is, the boys begin to behave as they like, and the system now works in quite a different way.

This is due not merely to the fact that the schoolmaster is asleep (which Jackson would have called a negative factor - that is, it does not itself give rise to any manifestations of symptoms) but rather to the release of the boys from control, with resulting disorder. In other words, if a higher level of the nervous system is not working, its absence of function cannot be discerned in itself. It will only be the released activity of the lower level that will be manifested and this only can be studied. The function of the higher level will merely be absent and it will be impossible to deduce its nature because we will only be able to perceive and study the released activities of a lower level. Suppose that the schoolmaster becomes invisible when he falls asleep and we know nothing about the proper working of a class. We see only a number of boys in a state of disorder. We can deduce nothing about the proper working of the class from this disorder. It will remain unknown to us.

In the absence of higher function lower function necessarily appears, and this latter is of different order. The higher function cannot be deduced from the lower. If we think of the question from the standpoint of levels of consciousness, then beneath our ordinary level exists a lower level, of another order.

When the level of ordinary consciousness is disturbed, Jackson observed that there is often a marked rise of dream-like states, which he ascribed to the release of activities of a lower level.....We have no right to believe that our ordinary level of consciousness is the highest form of consciousness, or the sole mode of experience possible to man. We cannot say that the range of the internal experience of oneself is necessarily limited either to dream-states or to ordinary consciousness. We have to consider the possibility, not only that there is a level above our ordinary level of consciousness, to which we are only occasionally awakened, but that our ordinary consciousness becomes integrated into a larger System when this happens. From this point of view our ordinary consciousness would have to be regarded as a release phenomena. We have to study ourselves from the angle of being disintegrated and not integrated individuals." 

Answer by Dr. Shankar

I have not denied levels of consciousness. I point that the state of being conscious reflects the level of consciousness. The levels of consciousness may be being conscious of either levels of knowledge or a steady state of deepening wisdom.

Wisdom which is in-depth understanding of knowledge is yet to happen to Jackson, because he does not know that the entire body is one single unit (whole) and different units of the body are not an actuality, because there is no distinct actual division between one unit and the next.

The activity of the boys is disorderly only to an adult, which reflects the level of consciousness in the adult, but it is orderly to the boys.

The higher function is known after it evolves and never before it has evolved. Similarly the lower function as well. Every level of being conscious reflects the level of consciousness.

Disintegration is part of integration, because a part of the whole is whole, just as the whole is whole. Knowledge divides the whole or single unit and compares, whereas wisdom understands that the whole or a single unit can neither be divided nor compared.

Shankar

 

Question from Germany: 10-2-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar, thanks for your response and of course the content was expected by me.... as you may expect the content of my Response now:

My understanding between the lines of Dr. Nicoll is, that he never would claim any ownership of what he utters in his writings. As a honest human he follows the saying that first was recorded by Christ "...yet not My will, but Yours will done!". As I responded to you earlier: most human will do the other way around and will offend again the commandment "you should not steal" which means: "MY will has to happen not YOURs".

Here we met something that will not match right away in your strict black and white distinction "doing" vs. "happening".

But the saying indicates that there should be kind of two wills being possible in life between one needs to choose. I know you in turn will insist that two wills in life are impossible - but who really knows?

Apropos "Christ": he is a metapher for the "new" man, the "vertical" man, the man who is "in the will of life" s to say. So "Christ" stands for a prototyp of man expected from evolution but yet not realized.

.....but I insist too: there is no automatic in that special case; we surley have enough automatic all the way in all other cases: biology, science, chemistry etc. but not regarding the development of man.

Regarding collapsing: evolution can be devolution as well: it needs not to get more complex, it can regress. This is said to have been happened once a time in the past. If you look at the archeologic investigations of old Egypt then you may be astonished to find primitive clay vases in neighbourhood of alabaster stone amphorae carved with tools not known in that particular era.

I am not sure that life is NOT in need of anything: if we are part of life, and we are because humanity is part of life, than our needs may be life needs as well.

Answer by Dr. Shankar

Wisdom reveals that God is not a person with a will. To knowledge God is a person with a will.

Doing indicates a doer while happening implies a process.

A wise one with deep understanding realises that even a single will and choice is illusory and not real.

Nothing can be expected from evolution, because the one including his expectation is an illusion in the evolution.

The development of man includes his biology and as you say biology is autonomous, so is development of any biology.

Regression transforms as progression and vice versa, just as construction and destruction. Archaeological investigations are proof of evolution and evidence that man is no the doer.

Wisdom reveals that we are as an illusion IN life; and our needs are of the illusory mind IN life. Mind however is NOT life. Therefore the needs are mind’s and NOT life’s. To knowledge however life has needs.

 

Question from Germany: 9-2-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar,

Regarding Dr. Nicoll and his writings I feel not comfortable and ripened

enough to hand to you kind of second hand information about him; all I can say from my standpoint is that he impressed me just enough as you do as well

to categorize him like I categorize you as having a deep understanding of life

to be honoured and well respected - as far as one who has not an understanding

like the ones he categorized could possible facilitate that at all. Anyway categorizing is questionable as is organizing some kind of checklist to

peg somebody as something. So I really cannot deal with some statement or quotation in his writings telling clearly that all he wrote has happened to him - but between the lines when reading his books you would be able to get some own answers I think.

So one has to be opened enough to risk a reading which may be at the end

be categorizes as not worthy for oneself or humanity. The latter I personally would not take in account at all. But I can assure you: the risk tends to zero.

My only answer about him on that is that he is one of the rare "vertical" human beings whereas most humans are only "horizontal" in their being, meaning most are considered to live their life in time and space, from moment to moment, recognized by the 5 senses, not being aware that the senses build up some fine virtual reality or illusion to settle more or less comfortable in. With "vertical" I would define something beyond time and space.

In the quoted book he clearly distinguishes between the invisible and the visible man can recognize and how both correlates with each other. The working hypothesis of the so called Fourth Way Teaching is, that man/humanity sleeps even in the wake state - that sounds not far away from the investigated results of Advaita I think. In addition it is told that one has to awake from that state and for that some effort is needed. From that point the teaching differs from yours: it would be better to be awaken and it would take some efforts to get there. If humanity attends that new state - it is told that this was already achieved some time in the past but was lost afterwards until today (see the mythos of the Tower of Babylon) - it would be better for humanity whereas life itself does not need that as it does not need humanity or anything else. The latter is some awkward finding of that teaching. This clearly implies that automatic evolution only reaches at some point where one needs some effort to reach beyond otherwise it will collapse again.

Sleeping humanity has no other choice as to be violent and self-destructive. But there are options. Dr. Shankar, do you now the movie "Matrix" from the late 90th? It shows humanity to be governed by their own inventions. The robots keep man asleep to take their life force as energy for their own and simulate them a comfortable life as an illusion until some sleeping humans awake from that hypnosis and began some revolution. Dr. Shankar: you again can map all I said so far to "what happens still happens - life is an eternal flow, unpredictable, uncontrollable and spontaneous" but it may not be sufficient enough for humanity whereas it will be sufficient enough for life.

Answer by Dr. Shankar

Thank you for writing. Awaiting your reply patiently.

What is the understanding you get while reading between lines of Dr. Nicoll’s book ?

Vertical indicates depth of understanding of the known which reveals wisdom.

If he indicates that effort is needed to awaken from the dream of the waking state, then surely the book is no better than the rest that are available in the market, because even effort in the waking state would be a dream and humans do not make a dream. A dream happens to humans and so too effort happens to humans in the waking state and they do make effort to happen. Evolution is automatic and this implies that even effort is automatic and evolution does not collapse.

Sleeping humanity is peaceful and constructive as well, besides being violent and destructive, because daily life is based on duality, albeit illusory, and duality is needed for the dream of the waking state to go on for humanity. Duality, albeit illusory, is part of the automatic evolutionary process.

Re: Matrix: Humanity is IN life and that what happens is what is meant to happen, albeit illusory, is enough for humanity IN life. Life is not in NEED of anything to happen.

 

Question from Germany: 8-2-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar,

I always appreciate your response - thanks a lot for that.

Thanks for the email of Markus as well - he seems to live near me (Stuttgart); maybe I will contact him even I don't think that any lack of my understanding is caused by foreign language issues.

I don't want to waste your time with my requests at all. But maybe I was not able to transmit my point of view to you which is pragmatic and practical and less philosophical.

My pondering about suffering of human beings is driven by the opinion, that most isn't a necessary suffering like pain and illness - most is "self-made" like wrong expectations on external events, wrong assumptions about other people.... which leads to crime, violence and war. Those are psychological issues which could me managed better even when one relate to it as illusionary.

The philosophical answer: you only have to wait long enough and suffering will change to joy and vice versa has some empirical evidence but may be not sufficient enough.

It is stated and observed that external events may be recognized differently in human beings and depending on their current state of being it may lead to suffering or indifference. In this case looking for possibilities to change one inner state seems to be legitimated enough.

To understand my point of view better - if you are interested - I recommend a book by a psychiatrist and Fourth Way Adept (Gurdjieff, Ouspensky) named Dr. Maurice Nicoll who gives other views on time and causality as scientific interpretations. He even raises importance of thinking whereas what is called our normal life and perceived by our 5 senses is mostly Illusion. So it may be the other way around as you stated so oft: "Live life - don't think life"

Answer by Dr. Shankar

Yes, Marcus lives in Stuttgart. I did not say that you lack understanding. I only stated that vernacular mother tongue language facilitates in-depth right understanding (wisdom).

Let me assure you that you do not waste my time at all by your requests. I welcome them very much.

Pragmatic and practical are illusory and not an actuality in life, they are an actuality only as thoughts in the illusory mind and any thought is an illusion of sound. This in-depth right understanding (wisdom) is nevertheless philosophical and therefore it is not superficial right understanding (knowledge) which is also philosophical.

Nothing is self-made to in-depth right understanding (wisdom). To superficial right understanding (knowledge), expectations right or wrong, albeit illusory, are self-made, which is not the truth. The psychological issues to in-depth right understanding (wisdom) get managed by life the way it is meant to and not by man, but superficial right understanding (knowledge) believes that psychological issues are managed by man. This is not the truth.

The philosophical answer that suffering will change to joy and vice versa if you wait long enough is superficial right understanding (knowledge) may not be sufficient enough, because knowledge believes that joy or suffering is self-made. But in-depth right understanding (wisdom) reveals that joy or suffering will unfold the way it is meant to unfold is sufficient enough, because man does not make either suffering or joy to come or to go.

To look for possibilities to change the inner state is legitimate to superficial right understanding (knowledge), because of the belief that man is the doer, which is not the truth. To in-depth right understanding (wisdom) the current inner state of being at any point in life is manifested by life and not by man. Therefore the current state of inner being at any point in life cannot be changed by man. The current state of being is what it is at any point of life, which is the truth.

In the book does Dr. Maurice indicate that thinking, the writing happened to him and that the thinking, writing including the author, causality and scientific and non-scientific interpretations are illusory? Is so then it is book worth reading to all humanity. Please let me know if he does mention. If he does not, it is a book not worth reading. Awaiting your reply patiently.

 

Question from Germany: 7-2-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar, I agree that knowledge differs from wisdom/understanding..

if knowledge meets the right understanding I would call it wisdom.

Opposite to you I assume that wisdom is part of other teachings as well...the point is that man needs a ripened being to transform knowledge into wisdom.

The initial point of a human being to ask such questions is suffering - that is not an existential question for a monkey I think. So it is well done for a monkey to not meditate or solve mathematical problems.

I don't agree that numerical time is absent in life - time can be transformed in space vice versa. Therefore the concept if doing is not bound on time.

If so the concepts of "happening" or "doing" are tantamount and again don't solve the human questions. But only when it comes to psychology both concepts may effect the habits of an ego: the doing may lead to arrogance whereas happening may lead to thankfulness. Most suffering is psychological and here we start.

Answer by Dr. Shankar

In-depth right understanding is wisdom, while superficial right understanding is knowledge.

When any teaching is understood deeply, the teachings reveal wisdom. In this sense wisdom is part of other teachings as well. Life is energy and energy transforms itself, therefore a ripened being is a transformation of energy. This implies that a ripened being does not transform knowledge into wisdom, life as a ripened being transforms knowledge into wisdom at the precise moment. The ripened being understands this and neither takes credit nor claims to be a ripened being.

A human being asks a question even when he is not suffering as well. The monkey does not ask an existential question or any question because questioning does not happen to a monkey and the monkey does not do anything for questions NOT to happen. Similarly, man does not do anything for any type of question to happen to him. Therefore, questions including meditation and solving mathematical problems happen to man if they are meant to happen as features in the process of evolution of a human being.

A moment is followed by the next moment according to knowledge. The smallest unit of time according to knowledge is a zepto second, which is one trillionth of a billionth of a second. Knowledge can neither recognise nor experience a zepto second. Knowledge knows that a moment in life happens faster than a zepto second which cannot be measured. Therefore wisdom implies that numerical time is absent in life and a moment in life is eternal which implies that a moment in life is not followed by the next moment. Time and space are together and any transformation involves both of them together. Doing is bound in illusory time, because knowledge requires duration of numerical time to do anything. Wisdom reveals that doing is an evolved singular movement and the doing is not separate from another doing. Therefore to wisdom doing is illusory and not an actuality. Therefore, the concept of illusory doing is bound by illusory time.

The concepts of happening or doing are illusory, which may or may not be tantamount. The ‘happening’ or ‘doing’ may or may not solve illusory human questions. What is meant to happen will happen in life, because life is energy and humans cannot control energy, because humans are an illusory manifestation of energy themselves.

The doing may lead to either arrogance or thankfulness, just as happening may lead to either arrogance or thankfulness. Both arrogance and thankfulness is known psychologically, which affects the ego. Both suffering and not suffering is psychological and which stared first can never be determined.

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Question from Germany: 6-2-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar, thanks a lot for responding....as you may know I own a couple of books and DVd’s from you and have read and watched them as well.

Of course I own and have read a lot more of literature from wise man all over the world, like Advaita, Integral Yoga by Sri Aurobindo, Fourth Way by Gurdjieff, Zen Buddhism, Christian mystic, Jewish Kabbalah and Islamic Sufi mystic as well. So it all culminates into one question: is there anything to do? ADVAITA: No, Rest of wisdom: YES.

This is exactly what drives me a lifelong: YES or NO.

As you mentioned the new founding’s by modern scientists about the nature of our universe combining Einstein’s Relativity with Planck’s Quantum Physics culminating in the super string theory and some interpreting of the CMB by holographic principles, it all may point to some kind of a spread illusion we are part of but it tells nothing about the correlations and relationships of the parts either in the underlying reality (so to say 2 dimensional area) and as well in the 3 dimensional time space phenomena we experience which you would call "reflected light".

At least there has to be a correlation if not causation between the underlying 2-dimension reality (A) and the projected 3-dimensional Illusion (B). The Question is: if (A) projects (B) is it possible that (B) has significant influence on (A) as well.

A photon will spread as two parts with each part showing opposed spins - if you eather change the spin of one the other will instantly change as well: for me this manifests a basic finding of causality in Quantum Physics: cause and effect; this may some consolation for Einstein uttering the sentence while confronted with Quantum Physics: "God does not throw the cubes".

But any existence of some correlation or stronger causation could not manifest properties like unpredictable, spontaneous, and uncontrollable. There are laws as well because a projection like the illusive 3d World, which shows clearly laws and is projected from a 2d world should give evidence of laws there as well - that is part of the laws of projection.

But most important: the absent of laws will provide chaos and a spontaneous organization out of chaos seems to be implausible: the question is: how much disorder in the micro-cosmos is accepted to build an order in macro-cosmos and vice versa? But there is evidence that both should be present - organisation (laws, systems, subordination etc.) as well as disorder (chaos).

There has to be some force to preserve organisation before chaos - and it needs some force changing chaos in some organisation. This is observed very well. These forces have to be based in information as well - and information in turn shows some immanent laws (Entropy) - all this does not point to an underlying unpredictable, spontaneous flow of life.

Psychological I agree with you: to have no expectations leads to respect which in turn will develop more "goodness". But that does not mean that expectations have to be discarded by assuming and introducing the attribute of unpredictable in what life shows.

Your understanding may be psychological helpful for people of the west who were overwhelmed in taking responsibility for everyone and everything - but it would be psychological harmful for people of the east taking everything that happen, as given as it is.

If there is nothing to teach and nothing to learn because all happens spontaneous this will harm any system. And if the projected reality shows teachings and learnings than there is evidence that the source shows it as well.

"Live Life - don't think life" raises the question: where should be thinking be involved anyway - illusionary or not.

Answer by Dr. Shankar

re: Question: Is there anything to do? The answer Advaita: no, means that what needs to be done gets done and you do not do it, but believe that you do it and must do it, which is the understanding that has evolved to happen to you. Rest of wisdom: Yes, means it is knowledge and not wisdom, man cannot do for many reasons, and one of them is: numerical time is absent in life and man needs numerical time to do anything. Secondly, everything happens in the moment and man does not make the moment.

YES and NO is duality and they are not separate from each other. They are interdependent for their meaning. Without one the other cannot exist. Duality is therefore illusory and needed to superficially understand the drama of life.

2 dimensional area is holographic just as 3 dimensional experience of time space phenomenon is.

Both 2 and 3 dimensions are holographic and there is no distinct division between them.

A photon’s spread as two parts would be photons as well and their spin would be holographic as well. Cause and effect are the same and not separate from each other just as YES and NO. God does not throw the cubes implies that what is meant to happen will only happen and laws are included in what happens, albeit illusory.

Disorder (chaos) too is due to its own laws, systems and subordination etc., as well. Order and chaos are nevertheless holographic and makes it complete, and the hologram (Life) would be incomplete if either was absent, to imply that they are meant to be where they are meant to be. The same force that preserves organisation preserves chaos as well. The monkey did not speak the truth to become man. Similarly when man understands that absolute truth can neither be known nor experienced, he will realise that life is as it is and neither this or that. The monkey did not meditate or practise spiritual techniques to become man. When man perceives that the ego can neither meditate nor practise he understand that life is as it is, and neither this or that.

Entropy is spontaneous, unpredictable and uncontrollable. The exact moment of entropy cannot be determined by the human mind.

When no expectation is total, goodness is neither more nor less. Both good and bad are respected and accepted as they are. In which case you will neither discard nor assume anything.

Harm will happen if it is meant to happen, whether in the east, west, north, or south, war is an example.

I have not said that there is nothing to teach and nothing to learn, because teaching and learning will happen when and where it is meant to happen, and man does not make either to happen, though it appears to the human mind that he does make both happen. Life makes teaching and learning to happen, precisely where it is meant to happen.

Thinking is involved in the illusory mind as an illusion and not as a reality or actuality in life.

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Question from Germany: 3-2-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar,

I am very pleased to hear that you are well. My family is well as well and my junior son does well in studying law, the older in studying architecture.

Regarding your response:

The point of matter within the concept of life as a single FLOW is the concept of a “doer” or many “doers”. Even a “doer” still can do things that are spontaneous, uncontrollable and unpredictable – so the concept of a personal “doer” may not contradict the concept of an impersonal FLOW from which he is a part of.

A cell could be unaware to be part of an organ, an organ could be unaware to be part of a body, a body may be unaware of some governing consciousness etc.. So we have clearly structures of subordinations, of superior and inferior. To declare the absolute (most superior) as “impersonal” is a concept as any concept and it is not logical at all because of the similarity of phenomena. It is the other way around: in case of the cell, organ and body one has to consider some type of consciousness for them as well.

If one consider a wise man as one, who knows that the first man could not have human parents, this statement follows clearly the law of causality which on the other side is negated when it comes to the “doer” which in turn has to claim some causality to be true – this seems to be contradictable.

I agree that thoughts come into mind spontaneously and unpredictably – I don’t agree that catching such a thought or not and ponder about or not does not need a “doer”.

But the response of a “doer” may be mechanically as done by a robot which in that case would equal the absence of a “doer” – but there is some choice to react not mechanically.

I agree: most reactions of man on earth are mechanically and could be treated as absence of a doer. This would paint the image of a world suffering the same problems on and on away from goodness.

But that is not the whole picture. So the world is governed by man and not by God which is a profound cause for the prayer: “Your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven” because it is not done on earth so far. Sleeping man is described by “earth” and awaked man by “heaven”.

Unconditional love does not mean to be indifferent towards the loss of goodness. I mean wickedness is not the opposite of goodness – it is the loss of goodness: the target is missed, called sin.

So there are targets and aims as there are subordinate structures and associated laws as well. One can’t deny the existence of structures and laws even an illusion has to show them as well as the underlying reality.

If it is mentioned that man evolves too as an enlightened being that could not be automatically as reality shows: there may be exceptions getting it by accident (but we don’t know what was really done by the individual at hand in the past), but most have to work on.

In sleeping state man has no real will and one can consider the “doer” to be absent. But in waking state that should not be the case.

Answer by Dr. Shankar

Your family being well and sons doing well was meant to happen and is happening, but it appears as though that their doing well is done by them. They do not do because the moment in life or in the mind is not made by man.

Regarding your reply

The concept of a personal “doer” does not contradict the understanding that life is a singular movement (flow) when it is understood that it only appears that a doer still can do things, but since everything happens spontaneously, uncontrollably and unpredictably, a personal “doer” does not do. If this is what you mean, you have understood well.

The absolute is understood as the maximum intensity of the flow of life and not superior to other intensities of the flow and so too none are inferior. A intensity of the flow is what it is meant to be. Therefore it is either maximum or minimum.

The law of causality does not exist, because everything that exists does not have a cause, just as man is not caused by human parents. What could matter, fire, air, water and earth could be caused from? There is no cause for them. They are all illusions of light, which has no cause either.

Catching or not catching, and pondering or not too happens spontaneously, uncontrollably, unpredictably and unexpectedly. Even the expected happens unexpectedly. But man believes that is the doer and that the expected happens expectedly, but does not understand that he does not make the moment in which everything happens including the expected that happens unexpectedly.

Even the choice to react and the reaction happens spontaneously, uncontrollably, unpredictably and unexpectedly.

The world enjoys on and on from goodness as well. The duality of good and bad are not separate from each other, though they appear to be.

The world is neither governed by man nor by God. Your will refers to light and not to man and light is present everywhere on earth. Every moment to an awakened man is heaven, and heaven is not a place far away from him to him.

Indifference towards anything is a condition as well, and is not applicable to unconditional love. Kindness, virtuous, good or good/goodness is the opposite of wickedness. Wickedness is not the loss of goodness but the absence of badness which is sin. The target which is missed is there is no absence of bad or sin from good, bad or sin is present when you think of good or goodness, because without the presence of what bad means, the good cannot have meaning.

Targets and aims are present where they are meant to be present, and this includes laws. They are all nevertheless illusory and not real, because aims and targets not only may or may not be fulfilled they nevertheless do change and are not permanent.

The accidently too happens automatically, while man believes he got it accidently by his efforts or has to work for it. An enlightened however does not know that he is enlightened.

Because man believes he has free will in the waking state, he is said to be asleep even in the waking state.

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Question from Germany: 1-2-2017

It is a long time ago we hear from another - hope you are well....“Life is a singular, spontaneous, uncontrollable and unpredictable impersonal flow”.Does this mean: there is nothing to learn in life about life and from life? Otherwise: who should learn in life?
“Man is not the doer and the thinker”. This again implies: nothing to learn – this in turn implies: nothing to teach….etc.etc.. OK – I agree when it comes to the overall observed and accustomed behavior where each individual claims to have some real reward or on the other side would deny any blame - that situation is typically mentioned in the ten commandments of Holy Bible as well: “you shalt not steal” which should not be taken literally but in a deeper meaning: you should not ascribe positive effects to your personal proud and give all blame to God – this would be a theft against God. But anyway on the other side the ”impersonal” manifests in “personal beings” as well. Should that really be treated only as an arbitrary effect or an illusion given by an impersonal flow called life?
There happens some kind of evolution in life when it comes to phenomena observed in life – you mentioned it in your many books. But it is obvious that a special kind of evolution is still missed: the evolution of man. OK - one can consider that man is ripened in some way regarding educational issues etc.. But should that be trusted as a real human development? I think not. Why does man take no real efforts in changing himself and because of that refusal is doing the same things over centuries over and over again? When we look at what man achieves at end over centuries it seems not to be driven by any real evolution which is clearly shown in his relationships: external fighting in his relations, between nations etc.. In outer stuff like technical progress he expands more and more but he stuck in his self being. He acts like a robot – in that regard you are right: he is not the doer! But is he forced to do so? I think not.
Man does not change because he thinks he can’t. In that regard the statement “man is not the doer” is awkward. On the other side because man thinks he is conscious he does not strive for consciousness and stays asleep. Ancient wise man told that the birth of man is not finished when he is born as a child of his parents. This only describes the first birth – and for most this accomplished the last birth as well which one takes into the grave at end.
But the wise man speak of some rebirth or “new birth” which should be accomplished in this current life of man and they show evidence that he currently is asleep and needs to be awaken. This is the meaning in holy scriptures when it comes to the distinction between “earth” and “heaven”. That has nothing to do with morals and efforts in outer behavior which should be judged by anyone. So again: is man the doer? – currently and until today he is not because he is still asleep even in his wake state. Should he stick to this state? Hopefully not. Some effort is requested to be a ripened participant of life and in life. Evolution of man needs some conscious effort by each individual - otherwise: “man is kept not to be the doer and not to be the thinker”. Best way to keep a prisoner in prison is to let him think he is not.

Answer by Shankar

The thing to learn in life about life and from life is that life is a singular, spontaneous, uncontrollable and unpredictable impersonal movement THAT FLOWS”. Everyone in life needs to learn this in life, because this understanding reveals unconditional love, which your son points to.

That man is not the doer and the thinker implies that thinking, learning, and teaching happen and man does not make them happen. The holy bible does not mention that reward or denying blame happen to man and man does not make them to happen.
When you are not proud of positive effects, you would neither blame God nor anyone. If you do it implies that you are not completely free of pride in positive effects that you may have. The impersonal flow is a singular movement and therefore any action is illusory and not real. Evolution of man is not missed, it is mentioned that man evolves too as an enlightened being. Education too has evolved and that development is true and illusory. That man does not take any effect in changing himself is proof that change happens if it is meant to happen and man cannot make change happen. Man is not forced to do anything because he does not do anything. His external relationships do happen and so too technical progress, because man does not make the moment in life in which they all happen.
The thinking that he can’t change also happens and man does not make the thinking happen. Understand the first thought of the day happens to humans and so too the thoughts for rest of the day. Humans merely believe that they think, but do not understand that thinking happens to them. Therefore the statement that man is not the doer is wisdom and wisdom is never awkward. Striving for consciousness too happens when understanding happens that being conscious is not consciousness. He is asleep as long as he thinks that he can think and do. A wise man is he who understands that the first human child on earth was born not out of human parents. This implies that the wise understands that man is not the doer.

Evolution does not need any conscious effort by an individual, because the conscious individual and effort are a result of evolution. When understanding evolves to happen that the prison, meaning thought, is illusory man is free. Substantial evidence’ has been found that everything we see and feel may in fact be part of a vast illusion, according to a new study from a group of theoretical physicists and astrophysicists. Writing in the journal Physical Review Letters, scientists in Canada, Italy and the UK came to this conclusion while studying irregularities in the cosmic microwave background (CMB) - the so-called ‘afterglow’ of the Big Bang.

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Question from Canada: 1-2- 2017

Dear Respected Dr. Shankar, Sashtang Namaskar, I am obliged to get your answers to my queries. In continuation I request your guidance and answers to my following queries of inner quest:
1) You stated that "The difference is in the level of the state of consciousness that we each are in." .... Then please guide me how could I come to the level of your consciousness ? How did you arrive at your current state of consciousness? 2) Are we pre-programmed living organisms ?
3) If everything is "happening " then everything is " Destiny" and then what am I supposed to do ? And if I is the "mind" then how is it not controlled by the " Destiny" ?
4) Beloved Nisargadatta Maharaj is no more( So to ask him) but he used to say " have earnestness " or " Purify by meditation " to different visitors . My questionis " how to have "that earnestness" if every thing happens and there is no doer ?
5) Life is light and sound : This is the ultimate understanding . How to arrive at this ? How to know and understand what your are trying to tell and guide me/us?
6) All great sages --e.g, Adi Shankarcharya have spoken a lot in praise of gods and Goddesses and have even advised Mantra's for different purpose ( Ref: "Soundarya Lahiri ") ----And he also advocated that this is all illusion ( Bramham Satyam-Jagat Mithhya ) ...then why all these praise , texts and shlokas ? Why all these riruals ?
With folded hands I request your response to my these questions arising from my heart. May I bow unto your feet and pray for your grace to " have the understanding" which is worth and ultimate.

Please accept my Pranam, Affectionately.

Answer by Dr. Shankar

You are wellcome anytime. Read the books and listen to the CD’s on the website academy of advaita.

1:There is no ‘how’ to reach a level in consciousness. I did not do anything to arrive in the level that I am. I am in the level that happened to me. The level happens if it is meant to happen.
2.The programing happens every moment to every organism. The moment in life is not preprogrammed. The moment is etenally always present.
3.Your doing too is part of the destiny and it will flow the way it is meant to flow. The ilusory mind flows in the moment the way it is meant to flow. There is no question of control.
4. Nisargadata used to say so that people could understand that it is possible only if it is meant to be possible. Everythin happens and so will earnestness if it is meant to happen.
5.Life is light and sound only in every moment. You needed not have to arrive to this. All that is needed is the understanding and the understandng too will happen if it is meant to happen.
6.Illusory does not mean it does not exist. The illusory will happen if it is meant to happen, which includes praise of gods and goddesses and recital of mantras for different purpose. Sri Adi Shankaracharys understood everything in life is a reflection of God or godessess (meaning light) and mantras as an illusion of sound.
Trust and patience in life is the grace.

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Question from Canada: 5-1-2017

Dear Dr. Shankar , Please accept my salutations. I have been communicating with you on and off . My questions are:
1) What is " life" ?
2) If Life is a path then does it mean- a mere existence of the living organism is all that is going on and all is well - nothing needed ?
3) What is enlightenment ? How does it happen ?
4) Is a living Guru needed to understand the purpose of life - if I state that way?
5) Am I in the same "state of existence" and understand - as you are ? If not then what is the difference?
6) Can we (You and me) communicate without words to make me understand the "wisdom" ?

Answer by Shankar

Sorry for the delay. Your question was lost in the mail and has surfaced now.
1. Life is light and sound
2. An illusory existence of an illusory organism goes on as it is meant to go on. Everything which is needed happens if it is meant to happen, albeit illusory.
3. Enlightenment is light and it happens mysteriously.
4. A living guru will happen if it is meant to happen and he will explain that life has no purpose, but the purpose we have of life is to understand that what the mind believes life is, is illusory and not real.
5. The difference is in the level of the state of consciousness that we each are in.
6. Words albeit illusory are need to communicate if the level of state of consciousness is not the same,

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Question from USA: 30-1-2017

There are no questions. Words happen here to express the gratitude. You are always with us. Your words arrive like lightening. That is why there are no questions. You killed all my questions when you talked about death. .... Death is a thought for those who think they are living and death is absence of thought when one is dead. All thoughts based on fear or desire are felt within but they come from the Life (ie consciousness) to make the illusion appear as real.

Answer by Dr. Shankar

Happy that you understand the mind deeply.

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Question from Chennai: 30-1-2017

What is a moment? (Kindly answer this question without comparing or referring to TIME). If there are multiple moments, how is one different from another?
Answer to question by Dr. Shankar

A moment is eternal in life, but to the mind a moment is an instance. Many moments are many instances to the mind.

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Question from Netherlands: 30-1-2017

In what way can Life, as a mystery, be understood by man, who is included in the mystery, to be a mystery, since Life, in particular its appearance as man, among everything else in Life, is a mystery!? Or in a platitude way of asking: life, a mystery and remains a mystery, in ‘what’ way can it’s mystery be considered!? Even more ordinary: if a mystery, 'why', 'what for', or in 'which way', is a mystery its own mystery!? And really ordinary put: 'How' come the mystery to be and to 'what' extent!?

Answer by Shankar

Life is not understood by man as a mystery but what the mind thinks and believes about life is understood to be illusory and the illusory is a mystery. Morally life cannot be considered as a mystery. Life is understood TO Be mysterious. ‘Why’, ‘what for’, and ‘which way’ is not applicable to a mystery, because they are mysterious by themselves. The mystery is a mystery because it is a mystery and ‘How’ and to ‘what’ extent is not applicable to a mystery. They are applicable to whatever is difficult which is misunderstood to be a mystery.

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Question from Germany: 5-1-2017

Dear ladies and gentlemen

What if everything is just an illusion from the author of the books? And we believe in the illusion of the writer. What do I get when I believe what is reading in the books? To this day I have read nothing that strengthens me and is a guide for life.

Answer by Dr. Shankar

When you understand that everything is illusory and that an illusion is precise, you will understand that whatever is meant to happen will happen. By this understanding arguments, blaming, doubt, anger etc., subsides, and is replaced by unconditional love, trust and patience, by which you remain calm and peaceful in life.

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Question from New Zealand: 15-12-2016

Can you also please clarify for me from Dr. Shankar the following query. "When man can neither control time and space nor the evolution what might be the reason for different intuitiveness and intellect in human beings". Convey my regards to Dr. Shankar.

Answer by Dr. Shankar

Life evolves intuitiveness and intellect in different intensities in all living beings, including humans.

Reply from New Zealand.

Thanks for the clarification